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Wednesday, June 6, 2012
Citizens Fiscal Advisory Committee
The Citizens Fiscal
Advisory Committee has scheduled a meeting for Monday, June 11, 2012 at 7:00 p.m.
The meeting
will be held in the Community Room at Town Hall and is open to the
public.
WOW !!! Really ?!? I know that both blogs have called for civility and a certain degree of understanding. Where does the termination of Ingoldsby fall , especially when you replace her with Mulvey? OMG! Hard to swallow this one regardless of which side of the political isle you stand. Langley just proved he is truly nothing more than a political puppet. You just lost what little respect and tolerance I had. Sad day for the employees of EGB - Defruscio strikes again ! Grant was bad enough - now Mulvey - are you really trying that hard to torpedo the Town workforce and sabotage what little stability there currently is? Really?!?
There is no way that Langley can substantiate his B-S political move this morning. There is no excuse that flies in the face of anything other than political tomfoolery for this ridiculous and immature act.
Dear Gadfly: I will do my best to keep this civil,-( I don't break promises) - but maybe you can shed some light on this latest exhibit of immaturity and ignorance demonstrated by our Supervisor. Word has it that he's bringing in a book keeper as well and its going to be Taylor or Sheldon- care to comment? You might as well poison the drinking water to the entire work staff in Town Hall - you'd be accomplishing the same goal! Town Government as of late is like having a front row seat to Barnum and Bailey - " the Greatest Show on Earth" ! Thanks to Chris Defrusio - if your goal is to ruin Town Government - you pretty much well on your way !
I don't have a front row seat, but I'd suggest that the last "special meeting" is a perfect example of the necessity for getting some sound judgement into the administration of the Town. Those two hires of obviously qualified people was unnecessary and displayed extremely poor judgement and ignorance of the condition of the Town's finances. See Ed Gilbert's Post on the subject on the Times Union Blog. It came on the heels of $500,000 in a retirement incentive for which no savings have been shown - as required by law.
And there is the list of the $500,000 of cash that went out the door in 4 years without the required approval of the Board. Seems to me that long needed internal controls are about to be exercised.
Retirement plans were directly effected by the current Presidential administration - ( I'm one of them) ...so the intended incentive fell short thru no fault of anyone at the Town level - there was no way any of them could have foreseen what Nobama was planning....I would have retired for sure- but not now...
I think you must be unaware of the conditions related to the EG retirement incentive. The current Presidential administration has nothing whatsoever to do with the EG retirement incentive. The EG incentive required that in allowing certain people to retire early (facilitated by the Town paying $500,000 into the retirement system) the Town would realize future savings. These savings were supposed to be realized by such things as not re-filling positions, hiring freeze, etc. The law says that the results achieve are supposed to be reported.
It could be argued that for the people who were re-hired as consultants in their old jobs, a really nice "golden parachute" was provided.
People who deal with Keith Langley are finding out that it's not what he says...it's what he actually does. Langley says he is a nice guy who wouldn't hurt anyone..then the real Langley does the opposite and seems to enjoy hurting another person. Now I hear he's blaming his actions on the Republican party making him do it..get real Keith...you sound like DeFruscio and his distortions of the truth. We finally know the real Keith Langley and we will remember.
If Langley is upset with the board, then he should deal with the board. To go after Laura Ingoldsby to try to teach the other board members a lesson is cowardly and childish. That's like having a problem with someone and going after their little brother or sister. Keith, grow up - don't strike out at the defenseless because you're afraid to play with the big boys and girls.
I thought you really wanted to make a difference and were honorable.
Langley has no conception of the word "honorable." How could he - his best friend is Defruscio and he doesn't even know what the word honorable means; but he's got a big house and a nice family!
Not only did they do the town an injustice by bringing in their own candidate for Finance Director; but birdbrain Grant decided to put it as a email to the employees congragulating him several hours after her leaving not by choice!~ You did a good job, SUPE - we'll remember this in four years ----- N O T. Bye Bye!~
I thought Keith was "different" too. I'm here for the "Good of the people of the Town of EG." Yet he can't stand up to his party's idiots and say "This is the way its going to be." What happened Keith? You told a couple of us "I wouldn't let you go. I'm not political," and like damn fools we believed you!" I'm telling ya - "I'm not that kind of person" and the damn Dems go and believe you. PLEEZ. Take that nincapoop ASS ISTANT of yours and resign; do us all a FAVOR. Your mad because we spend too much money so this was an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth! Let the Party Begin!!! Laura, be well! You're loved by everyone!
Laura is a nice person but she was NOT a Director of Finance. she was a payroll person. you may not like Sean Mulvey but his credential are far superior to what Laura brought to the table. OUR town has a huge spending problem just look at the last two hires and Pete Stenson's pending part time job. In order to get a handle on this we need qualified people in key positions. The plain fact is that Laura lasted 5 months longer than any republican appointee would have under a Dem. supervisor. (doubt this ever see's the light of day)
OK- exactly WHAT are his credentials and job experience that makes him such a desirable "Finance Director" ? Last I knew, he was an un-employable school teacher that can't seem to stay employed - anywhere. Prove me wrong - if you can.
Sean Mulvey is "qualified" for exactly what?? He has the manners of a 4 year old , can't get a job - even his father in-law can't get this buffoon a job....that says volumes! EGB is worse off with this fraud in the finance department.
Now we can turn a school teacher into a Finance Director? I just think its WUNDERFUL that so many of us can change our credentials at the drop of a pin. Yes, Jim Breig is still on board after almost a year and he ought to be thanking his lucky stars!
Sean' has a bachelor's degree in finance, a masters degree in education and an advanced certificate in public finance. our town has a 2.1 million dollar red mark that is a serious problem no one wants to deal with EXCEPT Keith and now Sean. personally he has the credentials that I would want.one last thing anyone that is in an appointed position has to realize the precariousness of their job. when an administration changes you are probably going to be looking for work .
If Sean has ALL these qualifications, how come he couldn't hold a teaching job? There's problems in mudville and he clearly ain't the might casey! And...its not the Finance Directors responsibility to over see the "2.1 million dollar red mark". And its no longer 2.1 million, its actually considerably less. His job is to handle payroll, retirement and making sure health benefits are handled. If he screws up one thing or meddles with any of it without negotiation , there will be guaranteed lawsuits. Watch the fireworks now- Langley is a dope and Mulvey is a mistake!
you are mistaken on many fronts. from NYS Town law section 52 regarding the Town Supervisor:
"1. Appoint, and at pleasure remove, a director of finance who shall assist the supervisor in the preparation of the preliminary budget and the capital budget, if any, and in the administration of other fiscal operations of the town for which the supervisor is responsible. "
The duties that you assign to the Director of Finance were handled in that position only because of previous appointments. While it is necessary work it is not the job of the director of finance. It sounds like you think he will attempt to unilaterally change negotiated agreements I think he knows better than that. As to holding a teaching job you can't be serious we have had numerous layoffs because of the economy and the funding cuts to school districts certainly you don't think every teacher that was layed off "couldn't hold a teaching job"
Well then I guess we'll just peel thru the public officers law and other executive laws to see exactly what can be done about this...huh? You opened the can of worms, now deal with the fall out!
Appears to me that that might just be the first contact for you and yours with any law books governing municipal operations. This place has been run like the Jukes and the Kallikacs for too long.
I don't know what you are all worried about. I predict in no time you will be hearing about a special meeting arranged under the radar to rehire Miss Laura to some unnecessary position through the current year at her same salary. The majority will rule and then there will be 4 additional patronage positions (counting the 3 hired for the DPW). So why the long faces? Still no financial reports and still in debt. I predict a major tax increase. In fact I can sniff it -- coming from the direction of the sewage treatment plant.
Why the long faces? Because we have to look at that baffoon and company for the next 3 1/2 years but there's always a light at the tunnel! We will take control again in 3/2 yrs.and then they can have the long faces. Shucks!
Stop blaming the Republicans for what happened to Laura Ingoldsby.. This looks like the action of Langley and DeFruscio. There are a lot of Republicans in town who despise the way the Republican party is run and things are going to be done to change the Republican leadership in the near future.
All Republicans are not the same - some Republicans believe in responsible and fair leadership - not what we are seeing now.
Many of us are fully aware that Defruscio nor Langley represent the true Republican party. So when does Defruscio get the boot and we can all get back to running the Town with the usual disagreements -- not the political foolishness from an extremely immature party leader?? Someone take charge before he ruins it all so bad that there's nothing left to salvage.
I agree with Bob, Republicans are not responsible for what is going on in our town. The only real Republican involved with politics and running for office is Rick Matters.
The Republican chairman picked Mike Cristo to run - not a Republican, Ann Taylor to run - not a Republican, Ed Gilbert - not a Republican, Keith Langley - not a Repbulican....see the pattern.
I know we have a large number of good, decent Republicans in this town who are not being represented by going to the other parties for candidates and pretending they are Republicans with Republican values.
Why not try a novel idea....pick a Republican to run on the Republican line?
Also, the blogs that attack the Democrats are thought of as being affiliated with the Republicans - not true. Ray Mooney - not Republican, Don Johnson - not Republican, Dwight Jenkins - not Republican......the pattern continues. Think about it!
I agree - there are alot of good and decent Republicans in Town; ones who are fair; ones who truly do believe in friendship and honesty; like Mike Vanvoris for example. But unfortunately for the DEMS we didn't get the "good group of Republicans" in Town Hall; we got the bad asses! Don't sweat the small stuff; we'll take care of Laura and in THREE and a half years, we'll get rid of those Bad Asses! Bye Bye!
Well maybe its time the Board woke up and took away a couple of these positions. Unlike Langley who couldn't stand up like a man and keep Laura, we need to consider who we can and cannot DEMOTE or GET RID OF. Harsh, maybe but its only fair.
After reading the comments of Bob and Harold, one has to wonder - with all of Chris DeFruscio's screw ups - if he is not really working for MOM....kind of like a double agent. Is DeFruscio really that incompetant a leader or is he betraying the Republican Party? Whichever it is - not good folks!
If Keith Langley is taking his orders from DeFruscio, as suspected, that says volumes about Langley. My God...when are the Republicans in this town going to take back the Republican Party?
TOO LATE 12:58 ! He's well on his way to destroying the entire infrastructure of employees and before he's done - there will be nothing left to salvage for any REAL Republican !
Chris Defruscio hasn't a clue whether its Labor day or Halloween! When you put an uneducated , used car salesman in a position of power , this is what you get. He has no knowledge of the inner workings of East Greenbush nor does he care. Chris thinks this is all a big game and he's vying for the "bully of the sand box" because he thinks it makes him look cool ! Cristo and Taylor started all this mess and once the people of East Greenbush sent them a clear message - they have fallen away - but Cristo still tells Defruscio what to do and its obvious that Chris can't think for himself. Too bad Langley can't think for himself either !
Don't make excuses for Langley - you can't put flowers in an a**hole and call it a vase ! He is what he is - and we've all watched for the past few months as Langley has slummed around with Defruscio and Torino. What did any of you expect?? Mulvey is just the "tip of the Iceberg"....so to speak - and what a big ice berg it is !
I'm sure Langley is wondering why no one wants to speak to him. Its not even the "Laura" thing, although he made a HUGE mistake by telling her on Friday she'd lost her job, then telling her at 8:30 to pack her things, while the ex teacher sits in his office awaiting his new position. Former Supervisors VanVoris, Angelini and McCabe had class; they would have never allowed such activity to be done that way. They would also make an attempt to interact with the Town employees, approach their windows now and then "Hey how ya doing, how's things in the Water Dept." or whatever department. Langley has hid his head in the sand since day 1, so we know where thats going to get him. Then he goes and hires his assistant who doesn't know how to deal with people; now we have another social misfit as the "Finance Director." Well it certainly has changed; it used to be such a friendly place to work; yes work there and socialize, a word apparently they know nothing about. The whole thing is sad; maybe they're getting tired of hearing "It was so much fun here or its not the same." Well its not and it didn't have to be that way. This is the way THEY have created our work environment; do your job from 8:30 to 4:30, take a lunch and get out as fast as ya can at 4:30 and basically ignore whoever you run into that you don't want to deal with at that present time. Good Job, Langley! You know how to make people feel "comfey!"
That is a mouthful 6:37 pm. Well said; you are a person who thinks with great feeling and admiration for the people you have worked with. Thats gone in todays world or should I say in our Town Hall. It has now become an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. We take care of our people, the take care of theirs. Langley; Ms. Grant and Mr. Mulvey need to go to "Charm School" and be taught what "socialization" is all about - they have no social skills, and apparently its noticeable by the above statements you have made. Someday I'd like to meet up with you - Thank you 6:37 pm
So much for the "if you do a good job, you won't have a problem" scenario. Who did their job better than Laura Ingoldsby? Come to work everday, except if she had to have a treatment, did her job very well and caused trouble for noone!! One of the nicest, most valued employees of the town and she is cast aside because Langley is a puppet. I hope you realize what you did Supe, cuz this is gonna cost you. You preach you are your own man and don't march to anyones orders....yeah, right. Stay Classy Keith!! Your true colors have suddenly appeared. You are no beter than that little Napolean who we kicked out of here a ctouple years ago. How's it feel to be in that league?
I am pleased to announce that Sean Mulvey has joined the Town Hall staff, assuming the responsibilities of Director of Finance. His immediate focus will be the 2013 Town budget.
Sounds like another Cristo-Taylor budget in the making.
Worked real well the last time. YUUUUUUP! YUUUUUUCK!
its not the responsibility of the Finance Director to handle the 2013 budget ! Someone better tell the Supe what/who and why because this man hasn't a clue .
what does the comptroller do? Isn't it his job to focus on the 2013 budget?? You people have no clue what your doing. The smoke screen bullshit that Mulvey is going to help with the budget is just that - baloney and we aren't falling for it. Jokes on you Defruscio !
They will miss Laura about retirement buy backs and health insurance more than a payroll clerk. Hey Chris how about returning Town Property about time. Keith check you hang out with a lot of skeltons for a short time with the Town
Oh you mean the 11 pairs of jeans he owes the Town! never to return them. We could go on and on about Defruscio's antics - but they all have that "little big man syndrome!" Must be something in the water. Can't be - there's only a certain few that would steal from the Town; ya gotta be lower than low! Look at me I'm powerful - I can do anything and get away with it. Is that called a Politican or a Crook? The best part about Defruscio is one of his bestest buddies WAS Ray Ingoldsby. This had to have taught Ray that his friend is a definite loser and liar.
Bottom line: Langley / Denfrusion/Mulvey and Grant are all in this for personal gain. The bullsh*t line of trying to save the Town is just that - bullsh*t ! How long before the stooge releases personal information that he knows he can't disseminate? I'd be willing to bet he has already given private info to some political stooge and violated HIPA laws. He can't help himself.
As an overtaxed tax payer in this town, it is my understanding that the new supervisor is on the job part time at best. If the supervisors job is no longer full time, why are we paying him $70,000. Perhaps $35,000 would be more appropriate. Still pretty good pay for 15-20 hours a week.
As ANOTHER overtaxed , LIFELONG resident of this Town , I've never been so utterly disgusted with the performance of a Supervisor. I thought the Gause administration was bad until this Langley got in ! WOW ! Where are the TRUE Republican party members? This ridiculous excuse for governing East Greenbush is nothing more than a veiled power grab by Rich Crist, Chris Defruscio and no doubt Mike Cristo. The people of East Greenbush will deal with Cristo in the next election , but leaves many of us "old timers" to wonder when the real Republicans will deal with the likes of Defruscio and Langley. I heard Langley doesn't spend much time @ Town Hall- if that is true, taxpayers should demand his resignation !
and another thing..... we voted Ed Gilbert out resoundingly in November....who thinks this man knows what he's talking about? Why would anyone even listen to his skewed versions of anything to do with East Greenbush?
The people of East Greenbush are being played as fools by these bogus performers acting as Republicans !
I'm amused about all of this talk about real Republicans. Who do you consider a real Republican? Someone who allows him or herself to shut up and roll over for the Democratic majority and take all of their BS? Is that what you consider a real Republican? This Town needs a really good house-cleaning and I am not saying that the new guys can do that -- but I think the Supe did the right thing by removing Laura I. from the job and putting in his own person. Maybe he doesn't interact with the holdovers because they don't interact with him. Who knows? I thought it rather amusing that he couldn't even rearrange workspace without Phil Malone having a hissy fit because his mother was moved from the front office. Yeah, that is really what the Board should be doing, micro-managing office space arrangements. Yeah. And by the way -- when you accept a patronage job you have no entitlement to lifetime tenure -- you all know that.
I could name quite a few, Stan - if it didn't hurt them by mentioning names, I'd do it. But yes there are many good Republicans - the older ones outbeat the younger ones by a mile!
The Real Republicans would never tolerate this foolishness and juvenile bahavior exhibited by Defruscio and company. There's no need for "rolling over for the Democrats and taking anyones BS"...but WTF is this crap? Lets be real honest here - this latest move is the worst thing in many ways. Patronage positions aside - placing Mulvey there will quagmire EVERYTHING for months. He cannot get along with anyone and will not get along with anyone. He is already suspect of doing illegal and immoral things both inside and outside of East Greenbush. Residents should be well aware that he is nothing but a political plant to leak information to the likes of Johnson, Mooney and Jenkins - who ARE NOT REPUBLICANS , because they intend to use it to gain information and facts they would not otherwise be entitled to....and that is a FACT ! Mulvey cannot be trusted and if his position was elected - he's history !
Why is everyone beating around the bush on this. Bottom line: Mulvey is offensive,obnoxious,arrogant and ignorant. Not one person who has had any contact with him as of late has anything nice to say about him. Maybe he has all those degrees - but without any "people skills" - basically he's worthless in the workforce and it would explain why no one else would hire him ! Don't mean to be mean - but everyone is tip-toeing around when basically Langley just put the most offensive personality he could find in a job that requires "people skills" !
I want to thank Keith Langley for his actions of late. Keith, you have unified the Democrats and their friends like I thought only Chris DeFruscio could. Keith, keep lying to people, telling all that you are not political....I'm Mister Decent....then do the opposite.
I don't buy that the powers that be made you do it...I think you did what you did to Laura on your own and I expect more nastiness from you. Keep up the good job. You will never see control of the board...you've been exposed!
Wow! No warm and fuzzy reception for Sean? What's wrong with you people? Oh...I forgot his stellar performances at Town Board meetings. His juvenile antics are some of the most memorable in recent history ! I feel so very sorry for those people who have to deal with this man in any capacity. He is the epitome of nasty combined with arrogant and obnoxious !
I doubt that the new Finance Director will have much contact with Town Hall employees if he is doing his job correctly. It is a number-crunching job, is it not? Might be just him and a lil' ol' calculator in a back room.
Absolutely - bring her back and give her a raise. What are we going to do; no one knows the payroll or retirement system like Laura. Be a man, Langley instead of listening to your puppets and bring her back.
Ya know you people give democrats a bad name. I thought you were the party of the people. since when is wasting the peoples money a good thing. Carmela Hicks gets let go, but oh wait she's still there in another position. Two patronage hires in the DPW and I bet you dollars to donuts that poor Laura is found another position (at the tax payers expense) before the month is out and lets not forget the 14000 dollar raise for the DPW commish . The plain fact is you are all making noise because the free living on the tax payers back is coming to an end and you can't stand it. (wonder if this makes it my last one didn't)
Wow...really...are the Gadflys crying about patronage positions...let me guess...Sean Mulvey wasn't a patronage hire. Ya know you people give humanity a bad name! You know what they say about payback...hope it happens!
Eileen Grant IS a patronage hire ! Stacy Crain is a patronage hire. Mulvey is most definitely a patronage hire ! No one can dispute that!
I thought you reformers , thinly disguised as repooblicans , were the party for the people? Hiring social misfits such as Grant and Mulvey proves beyond a reasonable doubt that its clearly "do as I say, not as I do" with Defruscio and crew... your not fooling anyone.... People are starting to realize your all frauds...and if any one of you had a clue, we wouldn't be in this mess. Your screw-ups will end up costing os money before much longer- guaranteed!
Now lets pick on Carmela Hicks! The Seniors absolutely love her. Have you passed by Onderdonk the past two or three Thursdays - hte place is mobbed. Music in the Park has been a real success since she's been on board. Lets see if the Repubs can even compare to her charm, wit and all around niceness. Why not let her go to - oh thats right, she's board appointed! She's always said "Laura's my best friend." Friends and politics are two totally different words. So Lets be Real, get a life.
Grant, Mulvey, Johnson, Jenkens,Cristo, Taylor, Mooney,all a group of social misfits who spend all their waking hours defaming ,libeling ,slandering anybody that does not agree with their warped view of the world. Be thankful you don't go through life like them
Cristo - Taylor - Mulvey can't hold a job! Speaks volumes of exactly why they are so angry and disgruntled. If it wasn't for Daddy - Cristo wouldn't have a paycheck. Taylor has been terminated so much that we almost lost count. Mulvey - well his employment record-( or lack thereof) speaks for itself ! Grant- well if anyone thinks she's the secretary only because she's "taking one for the team" - better think again - she is un-employable as well. Would you hire someone with such a rotten disposition to represent you or your office?? The only job she got is because of Defruscio forcing Langley to put her there- THAT IS A FACT ! That Sheldon person - lest we forget about her track record. UNEMPLOYABLE - that's why Defruscio pushes Langley so hard - because these people can't get hired anywhere else.....FACT!
I'm a Democrat who thinks the Laura firing was extremely poor judgement by Langley and DeFruscio. However, I find fault with the people who continue to criticize Eileen Grant. Does anyone really think that Eileen had anything to do with what happened to Laura? I don't. Put yourself in Eileen's shoes. How would you like to be the person working for Langley - not an easy job. Langley and DeFruscio did this...not Eileen...give her a break.
Let's not be like the Gadfly blog and throw stones at everyone and anyone. Their blog is trying to justify an action that can't be justified and they know it!
Yes - I do think she had ALOT to do with Laura being fired. ALOT !! As far as Eileen- she forced Defruscio to give her that job- she is there because SHE WANTS TO BE THERE!
Don't give her any credit. I doubt Langley could be bad to work for since he's never there. As far as personally working for him, he'd be like any other boss, full of S... and always on your A..! If she thinks its so hard, why didn't she go out and get a real job instead of working for the public sector for $30,000 a year. Oh thats right; she's already collecting a pension from the State - so does that qualify her for being a double dipper! She's in it because she's so damn nosey!
I wouldn't be surprised if all the criticisms of Carmela Hicks, Eileen Grant, Laura Ingoldsby and Kate Bennett was actually coming fron Chris DeFruscio. Mr. DeFruscio considers himself as the ultimate game player and would certainly like to deflect the residents attention away from hin and Langley and their actions.
Now I hear DeFruscio is telling anyone who will listen that he had nothing to do with Laura being fired....it was Langley. DeFruscio even tried to tell Laura's husband "it wasn't me, I had nothing to do with it and would have stopped it if I could have." Let's hear how many people from any party would believe DeFruscio is innocent...how about you Martha Andiago...were you there as DeFruscios' witness?
I see they are after McCabe again. Wanting to know what he did with the money he stole. I heard he bought a camera. You should see the photos of T Grant , Mulvey, Cristo, Taylor and Defruscio . What quality and soooo unethical on their part.
I've said this at least ten times over the past few months....when you choose a leader who is nothing but a used car salesman who embellishes on his life accomplishments , who was caught trying to steal votes and fix an election , who's best friend in the world is Mike Cristo - YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE - AN IDIOT RUNNING WHATS LEFT OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY !
Its irrelevant who says what - the facts are that this new guy - Langley - is totally screwing up and his faithful supporters don't quite know how to cover for him. He's made several bad dcisions that he must now stand by. The Town will suffer greatly over the next few years and once his new finance director screws up beyond repair - finally then , maybe he will see that he is nothing but a pawn in a much bigger plan to destroy this Town we live in. Johnson and Mooney don't want a better East Greenbush- they want to blow your tax money and blame it on McCabe- EVERYTHING they blab about costs money to fix. They think they know whats best for East Greenbush. Funny how voters reject the people who support their point of view ! - (Gilbert,Taylor,Cristo)
All the Gadfly blog wants to talk about is stipends and issues that are several years old. Let's talk about Langley, the great uniter. He preached how he would unite the residents of all parties. No game playing, everyone treated with respect and dignity, no game playing with peoples jobs.
Well here we are less than 6 months later. People threatened, people have lost their jobs, no interaction at board meetings. Under Langleys rule, if someone brings up an important issue that needs to be addressed at the board meeting, it wll not be answered or discussed - as per the "great uniter", Langley.
Ray Mooney, Don Johnson, Dwight Jenkins - is this what you campaigned for and gave financial support for? We had one Chris DeFruscio - now it looks like we have two.
These are the issues facing the residents of this town. People wanted change and trusted Langley's promises during his campaign. All we got are broken promises and divisiveness.
I disagree with most of what is said on this blog but one thing I do agree with-- Chris Defruscio must go if there is ever going to be any confidence in the Republican Party of East Greenbush. He was responsible for the "Martha" letter -- he was so controversial as the DPW commissioner that he couldn't even hold the job for a year. Loyalty can bite you in the A-- at times, don't you know?
Lets see how much loyaly the Supe will have if the TB brings Laura back? Doesn't that have to be voted on? What will you say then - Supervisor Loyalty? How will your gooney friends tell you vote? God knows you can't think for yourself these days.
Ray Mooney - who do you think you are? You have the nerve to make demands of others on your blog, yet lack the courage to run for the board on your own merits. Ray, are you afraid of the voters response to your candidacy? You should be!
Keep starting trouble and hiding behind your computer to throw your stones. The majority of us continue to be amused at your apparent sense of self worth.
Get a life - run for the board or continue to be an annoyance who reaches your 20 or so minions.
Ed Gilbert - where are you? You used to speak your mind. Now you've been relegated to Langley's puppet. Is it that important to get an appointment from Langley that he can tell you when to speak and what topics you can speak about?
Shame on you Ed! When you sat in my house you told me how independent you were and would fight for the citizens. Ed - you sold out!
Do you really think Langly and Defruscio don't laugh at you and how easy it's been to control you? Ray Mooney, in my view, is an unhappy, unfulfilled, miserable man, but at least Langley was unsuccessful trying to control Mooney.
Do ANY of you people ever think to comment on the real issues of this town instead of just ripping people apart? You all sound like a bunch of moronic 14 year old boys in the locker room at school.
Freedom of Speech. We have a right to say whatever we want; we need to vent - and who are we going to vent to? Supe, I don't think so. The above blogs began with one of our good buddies, Laura - who was let go in a way that is ripping all of us apart. Don't know how you people would of handled one of your own getting the boot after so many years; especially one who just had thirty some cancer treatments; things changed - and not for the better. Walk in that town hall any day - we're not 14 year old boys or ladies; we're hurting because no one wants to speak to certain people - and its awful. Thank you for coming on board and staying in your own little world; the issues of the town are very important, but not as important as the welfare of the human beings that were truly hurt by all of this nonsense. Saddest part about it, it'll never change in the next 3 and a half years.
A little advice for the Republicans and Gadflys in this town. A change of leadership is desperately needed. Chris DeFruscio will never lead you to the promised land! I feel you need to look no further than Tom Grant Sr. as Republican Chairman.
Tom is decent, fairminded, and respected. He also has a quality Chris severely lacks, Tom is TRUSTWORTHY - he keeps his word! No game playing with Tom.
Just my thoughts - if you are satisfied with DeFruscio then keep playing his game and see how you do.
moronic??? seriously - then describe the actions of Denfruscion! Describe the political foolishness and actions of Christo ! How about we describe the nasty temper of Taylor ?! Look in the mirror and at the people you are thinly defending...look no further than Denfruscion to see the epitome' of a moron !
It is pretty obvious that Gilberts blog is under someone's control....I would guess he has to have it "Langley Approved" before putting anything out there....I would have expected a litte more from Ed and consider my vote for him wasted...wouldn't happen again though.
"And then you've got the Grand Torino demanding his favor for some relative. And then the Chair of the Reps cat-calling from the audience. At least Kim kept her mouth shut. (She didn't need to say anything because the Reps were such fools.)"
WOW !!!! Really ??? Denfruscion and Tirino acting up at a Town Board meeting?!?! Go figure- juvenile mentality and arrogance just simply don't mix ! Republicans - GET RID OF DENFRUSCION NOW !
How sad is it that apparently Cristo and Taylor must create another venue to spew their vile diatribes against anyone they suspect didn't vote for them. It says that the blogmasters will remain annonymous - however you can't deny that only Cristo and Taylor have advertised this new slander page so its an odds-on bet that they will author and administer it.
This blog's anonymous. We can't be sure that Cristo/Taylor aren't authoring this one too to create some triangulation. They're sneaking up on us from all over.
I think the e-mail Suzanne Aiardo sent to Langley and Matters that was published over on the Gadfly should be printed in the Advertiser. Unlike Martha Andiago, she is a real person and since she put it out there it is public.
Suzanne AiardoJune 21, 2012 12:33 PM I sent this e-mail this morning to Supervisor Langley and Councilman Matters:
"My name is Suzanne Aiardo and I have been a resident of East Greenbush since 1986. I am a Democrat but not an East Greenbush Democrat. I voted for both of you in the past, because I am very disappointed with the Democratic majority in this Town. Nonetheless, I have to tell you that since January, I am very much disappointed in your leadership and conduct. There are numerous examples of your lack of leadership but I will highlight only a few.
1. The Ethics debacle is one. Voting with the majority to hold the hearing showed lack of support for the Ethics Board's draft version of its code and lack of principle on both your parts. It is clear that the Democratic majority will get their way, but why do you assist them? Why don't you speak out? And Keith -- you need to understand that a public hearing is NOT just a comment period. You cannot cut off questions -- the point is CLARIFICATION -- that makes a hearing less of a sham and promotes a notion that citizens are participating in government. I understand you had never attended a Town Board meeting until you were elected. It shows.
2. Keith --you have cut off any interchange between the citizens and the Board by your edict banning questions from citizens at a Board meeting. Apparently you cannot stand up to pressure from the majority or your voters. And Rick, what about you? You were often the most vocal and expressive Board member ever. You show little backbone.
3. Your cross-endorsement of the appointment of a Democrat to fill the Town Judge vacancy was appalling. Do you understand that is what your votes meant? Is that what you wanted to accomplish? Now even if you want to support the Republican candidate in the election, the Democratic candidate can use your votes against your candidate.
4. Your firing of Laura Ingoldsby was a disaster. I certainly understand why you would want to replace her -- she was the facilitator for secret stipends and a lot of other mismanagement. But surely you could have anticipated the outcome. You could have used that as an excuse for firing her. Now we have another patronage employee on the payroll. Is she making more money this time around? Surely you could have just moved her to another do-nothing job. Your're lucky they didn't somehow find a way to garnish your paycheck.
Well, that is what has happened just recently. I could continue. Furthermore, the behavior of certain of your advisers at the meeting last night was unprofessional and on par with the worst of the East Greenbush Talks blog. If you really are taking advice from these people you show poor judgment and a lack of understanding of what your job is. In other words, you are no better than the last Supervisor."
All the Laura cheering section should remember that she was a facilitator (well reimbursed) in the distribution of McCabe's stipends. That story has yet to come to an end. Statute of limitations and all that.
That dog won't hunt - your hopelessly addicted to your own fantasy that someone will be charged with some fictitious crime and you can gloat. Not a chance - that story was and is dead!
ALL the Laura cheering section is laughing out loud at her "overly qualified" successor ! He couldn't manage the return bottle section of Price Chopper.
Mr. "masters degree" in finance can't seem to figure out his new job?!? really ?? Mr. "over-qualified" doesn't have a clue - nor will he ever- he isn't all that bright and now your stuck with the ignoramus- Langley hasn't the balls to let him go because of incompetence !
Dear Ray Mooney; I was very surprised to see something I never thought I would see, you were speechless when someone asked you why you weren't outraged at the treatment of Laura Ingoldsby. So lets hear it. Wheres the outrage about firing a longtime employee in the manner that it was done. YOu had alot to say about cutting salary for new employees, but nothing about firing Laura. Can you say double standard? How about hypocrit? Also, I heard nothing from you about the won adding to the payroll when it was for the new bookkeeper in ADDITION to hiring an HR consulting Firm at $150 per hour. Where is the outrage Ray, about adding all that money to do the job Laura did for all those years? Thats right, to sum it up, they fired Laura, with Mulvey sitting there, and replaced her with 2 people, plus wanted to bring on the consulting firm. How come you aren't yelling about that? Hypocrit.
Gilbert got his "approval" for a new thread. I've been watching for it...I knew it was coming. Laura was much more than a payroll clerk...otherwise why would they need outside HR..she took care of that too. I guess Ed still doesn't know what is going on. There is a lot of outrage in this town...and for a change it is directed at the hipocracy of the Republicans. I cannot think of one Republican I would ever waste a vote on again.
Keith don't feel bad,Aairdo is Johnson's wife she lost a lawsuit ,harasses her neighbors,and pretends she's a lawyer, she's just a continuation of the garbage the former supe had to deal with.
Yeah, Ed Gilbert had his muzzle taken off by Langley so he could write on the TU blog. Ed, I doubt the majority forced Langley to get rid of Laura. We all know Langley went back on his word.
You accuse the majority of wasting money, yet Langley & Co. had to create 2 town positions and propose hiring an outside firm to do what Laura did alone. You tried to stoke the flames last night with your condescending attitude but unfortunately for you, Phil Malone put you firmly in your place and did what few can do - he shut you up! Mr. Langley sat there and listened to Phil's presentation of what transpired with the firing of Laura and his going back on his word. You, Langley or any one of your guys never disputed anything Phil said simply because you couldn't.
Ed - spin away - people previously rejected your candidacy once and I'm sure it will happen again in 2013. You' ve graduated from failed candidate to a stooge for Langley and DeFruscio.
Wheter you like Suzanne Aiardo or not she deserves credit for at least speaking her mind.Sue I appreciate your willingness to call things as you see them. People in town wanted change but I doubt they wanted the change Langley and crew have brought to the town. People expected more but are getting less.
If Langley changed some of his "crew" of advisers he'd have a chance to achieve for the people who elected him the change they expected. To this point he has relinquished (and the Party apparatchiks have usurped) the authority he has as the elected official entitled to promulgate policy for his administration. To this point he's caved to the old Republican patronage bunch - witness the performance at the Board meeting. Langley still has a chance to salvage his administration, but he needs to separate himself from those he thinks of as friends and get a different compass.
The crew Langley is taking advice from now (read Chris D. and friends) haven't a clue about governance. They want their place at the trough. Keith hasn't figured that out yet. Let's hope he does sometime soon.
Thank you for your kind words Pauline. I do not believe in following one party or another blindly like a lot of people do. The person who said the nasty things about me -- this is what I say to you -- put your name on your post or shut your mouth -- better yet -- you seem to know where I live -- give me a call and I'll be happy to talk to you. You are a coward and not a very nice person. At least I have the guts to put my name on my post.
Mr. Gilbert do you really think it was neccesary to make fun of Mrs. O'brien becoming ill at the town board meeting to try and prove your point. How classy of you. Really good use of the privelege the times union gives you to blog and reach out to the public.
I've known Keith Langley for many years. Keith is really a decent, nice person. However, Keith needs constant reinforcement of his self worth. Chris DeFruscio, as a long time friend, knows this. Chris feeds Keith with praise and encouragement while he is using Keith to do what he wants.
Keith, believe me, it's about time you find the courage to stand up for yourself and resist DeFruscio's control over you and start thinking for yourself. You'll find your real friends will regain confidence in you and Keith, you'll have a chance to shine. If not, enjoy your one and only term.
I have a question, perhaps someone can help me with. Is it fair or appropriate for Ed Gilbert to use the Times Union blog for political gain? Ed is the Deputy Town Supervisor for East Greenbush, appointed by Keith Langley. Ed used the TU blog as a bully pulpit to advance the political agenda of Keith Langley and himself. Is the TU okay with this? Does the TU even know what Ed is doing? If the Democrats were abusing this power, the Mooneys and Johnsons would be up in arms for sure.
One other thing, off topic....I agree with Pauline that Sue Aiardo is not afraid to speak out against either party if they are screwing up. Good job Sue! We need more people like you!
To Suzanne Aiardo - My name is not really Pauline but I'm concerned about revealing my real name for fear of hurting my business in town. Politics are so rough - some people would boycott your business because they don't like what you say.
Suzanne, we know each other and I know you have no love for the Democratic Party in this town. That's why your your comments about Keith Langley's performance and the perfomance of his advisers struck such a cord with me. Suzanne, for you to go out on a limb like that tells me how truly disgusted you are with Keith Langley and the poor choices he has made up to this point. We're no better off, and most likely, worse off than we were.
Thank you for being honest and speaking the truth. Maybe when I feel it's OK, I'll talk to you in person. Thanks...
Suzanne: while I am admittedly on the opposite side of the political spectrum from you - I was pleasantly surprised with your open honesty of the performance - or lack thereof - of the current Supe and his "advisor" Defruscio.
OK- Ed Gilbert blogs for Langley on the TU Johnson/Mooney have a blog for ??? Cristo/Taylor blog to avert attention Jenkins blogs because its therapeutic
apparently the "whisper" blog now appears at the behest of Taylor and cristo.
WOW - 5 blogs needed to support the Cristo / Defruscio slander and propaganda !
They all openly mock EGTALKS - but obviously they are ridiculously jealous.... good for you Talks - keep it moving along and forward despite all the nay-sayers !
A question for "Real Friend" way back at 7: 34. Would all the really decent and nice people you know go back on their word from Fri eve to Monday morning, and demand that another really decent and nice person clear out her desk immediately so that the goon hovering by his side could take her place. Or only the high principled champion, with the illustrious leadership qualities, who you say quakes before the political pressure of a used car dealer?
Anon, 10:56 PM - I concede your point. I keep thinking of what Keith used to be like, not what he has apparently become under the tutelage of Ericole Chris DeFruscio. I fear Keith has lost his way and, unfortunately, that's the way it is going to stay.
Supervisor Langley really is a nice guy; and this is coming from a Conservative. Had he distanced himself somewhat from his "fearless leader" and became friendly with many Conservatives, Independents and yes Democrats - they would of welcomed him, and agreed and disagreed; but he chose to have his mentor; Defruscio show him the way; and he's going to bury himself. The Republican Party would of done the same if the tables were reversed; you do anything to save an employee with an impeccable almost 20 year record, especially if they are quiet, do not get involved in the political nastiness of it all. Yes, Supervisor Langley what was done especially to Megan was not nice at all - but what did you really expect? Work with the TB; you may be mad but I guarantee someday you will realize Defruscio is the most evil and vindictive person you chose as your "mentor." He will hurt you, trust me.
Poor Keith Langley appears to be so insecure that he has entered into a co-dependent relationship with Chris DeFrusio. Keith seems to think if he resists DeFruscio, he'll be all alone in his political world and that he must do what DeFruscio tell him to do. Keith, I would tell you to man up but I don't think you can.
Keith, when are you going to wake up and realize that the advice you are getting from DeFruscio, Torino and Gilbert just isn't working? You have people like Suzanne Aiardo and Tom Grant, to name a couple, who you should be talking to.
Keith, if you are looking for turmoil, keep the group you now have. If you're looking for results and respect, I'd call Tom and Suzanne NOW!
Chris is the most honest, fair-minded, truthful, helpful, saint-like person anyone will ever meet! Has Chris ever lied, cheated, misled, or harrassed anyone? Of course not!
I think the Republicans should keep Chris on as chairman forever. What's good for Chris is good for the town.
Look at DeFruscio's rosy red cheeks....kinda reminds you of Santa...and who doesn't love Santa!!
Trash-bag and his side kick - the "used car super screwjob" along with the biggest loser in recent Town elections , believe they have a say . I really wish the Board majority would flex their collective muscle even more and strangle whatever else they can from these piss poor excuses for Repooblicans. Squeeze like Cristo did back in 2010 - just don't do it with the outright arrogance little Shakespeare did.
Ray 11;46 AM - I agree with you....,the only way to deal with the group from the Gadfly blog is through strength. Any sign of weakness will be taken advantage of by that bunch of clowns.
The board doesn't need some wannabe members telling the elected board how to govern. Ray, Don, or whoever - you want to govern - run and earn the right!
This message is for Joe LaMountain. I read your comments over on the Gadfly blog and while I am sure your efforts were sincere, you should know better than to think anyone from the other side wants anything more than to push their agenda no matter the consequences.
Let them continue to spread their venom and continue to suggest that Ray Mooney and crew are the only ones who should decide how this town is run. Ray argues about ethics - apparently he feels he can do a better job than Jack Conway. I do not. Jack and the board will come up with a good ethics code but hopefully not one that will satisfy Ray. I enjoy seeing Ray unhappy, which is most of the time.
Joe, you tried...don't let them bait you by continuing to explain your position. They really don't care. Also Joe, if you noticed...you signed your name and received a response form Anonymous criticizing you for trying to bring some civility to the way people treat each other.
Joe....you gave it a shot at civility...personally never thought for a moment they would have anything to say that could be misconstrued as caring about the town. They are bitter, bitter people. Don't waste your time with them....they are trying to bait you. An important thing to remember..never play mind games with unarmed people.
Oh my gosh...Ann Taylor (GiGi) is retiring from blogging to pursue other interests. The scuttlebutt is that Ann would like another chance to run for the board. Don't believe that's going to happen Ann. Chris DeFruscio would never allow you to be on the ticket - sorry, that's just the way it is.
Chris will find nice people to run and then find a way to sabotage their campaigns - it's what he does. Keep up the good work Chris!
Poor Mulvey- still lost in his new position. He has no clue what he's doing. Mr. "masters degree in finance" is really kinda out of his league. If he can't figure out the Towns payroll, how is he supposed to make intelligent decisions with the Town Budget?
Talk around town is that DeFruscio wants to get rid of Rick Matters and run Ed Gilbert and a woman to be named later, in the 2013 election.
I guess Rick Matters didn't help his case any by sending Laura flowers to welcome her back to work. Rick, I think your gesture to Laura was both classy and appropriate - good for you!
Rick matters show a great deal of kindness by sending Laura flowers and sent a very clear message to his cohorts that they were wrong. Clearly, Mr. Matters is a cut above the rest of those slugs and needs to find some new friends. I am not saying Democratic friends...just new friends. Thought I would clarify that for anyone thinking he would go against his party.
Its called integrity and self-worth. At least Rick Matters can look himself in the mirror daily and know he is an outstanding human being who has civility to his name, other than those baffoons that let people go at 8:15 in the morning. Wake up Langley, your party is not what you thought they were. Listen to people that really care about you.
Taylor,Johnson,Cristo,Mulvey,Grant,Gilbert,Jenkins and Defruscio all have ONE thing in common , and it's NOT that they are the alleged Reform/Republican party.
They ALL have an axe to grind with the Town. They all have either lost an election-miserably , were removed from their posts due to incompetence, lost a lawsuit to the town, or had one of their relatives removed from their patronage position within the Town.
Think about the most recent series of topics discussed by Mooney. ALL of them revert back to this very topic. They will all tell you that they have the best interest of the Town in mind , but I call bullsh*t ! They have personal gain and their own version of nepotism/patronage at heart. Explain Mulvey and Eileen Grant for us- ? Patronage? - They throw around alot of charges over there on the Mooney blog- that this blog picked on poor Ann Taylor - again I call bullsh*t! They conveniently forget what she wrote while she and Cristo campaigned. She got ALL that she deserved ! She started the battle, let her live with the consequences ! Her vote total would suggest that I'm correct ! She did more to screw and Republican candidate than any democrat ever could have - also something she has to live with and deal with. Cristo still can't fathom his low vote totals - still is arrogant about thinking people actually care about his opinion. Too bad this came down to this - but this entire mess over the past few years is completely and totally the fault of the quasi-republicans who have turned Town politics into a three ring circus ! Thanks must be given to Chris Defruscio- clearly the worst chairman to grace East Greenbush in the last twenty years !
Chris is a charming man. He can make up stories so anyone will believe him; then he goes to bed at night knowing he's cheated and lied the public. In the end, we've got our maker in Heaven or Hell to answer to - that says it all and we know Chris ain't going to heaven! Chris and Cristo will be down below singing "We are family, all my vindictive friends and me!" Sad, but true.
Didn't the fellow who can't get a building permit because of the sewer situation say that he'd tried to contact the supervisor a number of times with no luck? Anyone else remember this?
To Anon. over on the Gadfly questioning, once again, the scrap metal. Please check with Mike Cristo. He was the liason and oversaw the complete operation of the Transfer Station.
It was the DPW commissioner and the Supervisor's job to oversee the operation of the Transfer Station. Board Liaisons have no direct administrative or management responsibility. Nice try.
Chances are that the Dem. committee benefited directly from the scrap revenue which was skimmed from the Transfer Station during the McCabe Administration.
So....Red Guynup told Langley he didn't agree with the firing of Laura....guess what? Red gets dumped for Ed Gilbert!
Red, you did the honorable thing, unwilling to sell out your values. You have earned the respect of me and many more. Keith, you will find you miss Red and made a mistake.
Cristo has denied any involvement with anything that he was responsible for while he was a Town Councilman. He alone screwed up more and ignored more than his cohorts blame the Dems for today.
What exactly are we - ( the taxpayers ) paying Sean Mulvey to do? It is my understanding that the new "book keeper" is handlng the paychecks because apparently " Mr. Finance masters degree" can't understand something so simple for such an educated man. Langley is making it very easy for the majority in the next election.
I realize Mulvey is new and all; but the Supe ought should really consider putting him in the courts and get Laura back where she belongs. Why change something that always worked. Its like putting an 8th grader in place of a kindergartener and vice-versa. Laura get back in there where you belong. Put Mulvey in the transfer station with the garbage; Joe and Reggie, no offense. Don't know what the Town would do without you two! Your what keeps that place going.
Ladies and Gentlemen of East Greenbush, it is with great sadness and some small degree of frivolity that I must inform you of the passing from our political consciousness the insufferable but lovable Ray Mooney, Gadfly Extraordinaire. The Town's foolishness and depravity have sent him into a condition we've seen before in others (me), with symptoms not unlike comatosity: inability to think or respond to those matters relating to our corrupt and/or inept and/or both... East Greenbush. The collapse of the Ethics front was the last straw for Ray. To see an entire year of solid work be ground under the treads of the majority's tanks was just too much. He has the 1,000 yard stare and I fear we shan't see him back in action again. Yes, he has a pulse, but it is weak, desperately weak. Lies, excuses, and the using of people for their own benefit, on both sides, have driven him into a no-Man's land where he lays face down in a shell hole, unable to make it back. Godspeed, Raymond Mooney. We have lost a good man. *this is an unpaid advertisement for the Resuscitate Ray Club. Exclusive permission granted. Sincerely and really I swear I mean it, Dwight Jenkins.
BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Too many Freihofers cookies is my bet !
WOW! another - reformer/blogger bites the dust - and yet EGTALKS remains. They have needed no less than five blogs to ram their point of view down peoples throat- and the Board majority supporters still have just little ole EGTALKS! Speaks volumes !
TALKS remains because the total B-S coming from people like June 27 @ 11:39PM ! They have visions of glory and that the people of EGB will vote for their distorted version of how a Town should operate. If we adopted any of their foolish ideas - we'd all be broke and unable to sell our homes because NO ONE would want to move to EGB! I find it utterly amazing that the housing market in East Greenbush is currently thriving - despite the negative crap coming from Jenkins / Johnson / Mooney / Defruscio / and whats left of Cristo and Taylor. Its a testament that people reject the Johnson version of events !
Is the public allowed to question or comment at this meeting?
ReplyDeleteNot to our knowledge.
ReplyDeleteWOW !!! Really ?!?
ReplyDeleteI know that both blogs have called for civility and a certain degree of understanding. Where does the termination of Ingoldsby fall , especially when you replace her with Mulvey? OMG! Hard to swallow this one regardless of which side of the political isle you stand. Langley just proved he is truly nothing more than a political puppet. You just lost what little respect and tolerance I had.
Sad day for the employees of EGB - Defruscio strikes again !
Grant was bad enough - now Mulvey - are you really trying that hard to torpedo the Town workforce and sabotage what little stability there currently is? Really?!?
There is no way that Langley can substantiate his B-S political move this morning. There is no excuse that flies in the face of anything other than political tomfoolery for this ridiculous and immature act.
ReplyDeleteDear Gadfly: I will do my best to keep this civil,-( I don't break promises) - but maybe you can shed some light on this latest exhibit of immaturity and ignorance demonstrated by our Supervisor.
Word has it that he's bringing in a book keeper as well and its going to be Taylor or Sheldon- care to comment? You might as well poison the drinking water to the entire work staff in Town Hall - you'd be accomplishing the same goal!
Town Government as of late is like having a front row seat to Barnum and Bailey - " the Greatest Show on Earth" ! Thanks to Chris Defrusio - if your goal is to ruin Town Government - you pretty much well on your way !
I don't have a front row seat, but I'd suggest that the last "special meeting" is a perfect example of the necessity for getting some sound judgement into the administration of the Town. Those two hires of obviously qualified people was unnecessary and displayed extremely poor judgement and ignorance of the condition of the Town's finances. See Ed Gilbert's Post on the subject on the Times Union Blog. It came on the heels of $500,000 in a retirement incentive for which no savings have been shown - as required by law.
DeleteAnd there is the list of the $500,000 of cash that went out the door in 4 years without the required approval of the Board. Seems to me that long needed internal controls are about to be exercised.
EGG What makes the fills unnecessary as you state?
DeleteWhat makes Eddie G the decider of all things proper and right?
Nice treatment of Laura I.
Sean Mulvey??? Cost effective in one way. Winter heating bills will definitely drop!
Retirement plans were directly effected by the current Presidential administration - ( I'm one of them) ...so the intended incentive fell short thru no fault of anyone at the Town level - there was no way any of them could have foreseen what Nobama was planning....I would have retired for sure- but not now...
DeleteI think you must be unaware of the conditions related to the EG retirement incentive. The current Presidential administration has nothing whatsoever to do with the EG retirement incentive. The EG incentive required that in allowing certain people to retire early (facilitated by the Town paying $500,000 into the retirement system) the Town would realize future savings. These savings were supposed to be realized by such things as not re-filling positions, hiring freeze, etc. The law says that the results achieve are supposed to be reported.
DeleteIt could be argued that for the people who were re-hired as consultants in their old jobs, a really nice "golden parachute" was provided.
you say the glass is half-full , I say its half empty.... I was offered no "Golden Parachute"....things are much different from my perspective
DeletePeople who deal with Keith Langley are finding out that it's not what he says...it's what he actually does. Langley says he is a nice guy who wouldn't hurt anyone..then the real Langley does the opposite and seems to enjoy hurting another person. Now I hear he's blaming his actions on the Republican party making him do it..get real Keith...you sound like DeFruscio and his distortions of the truth. We finally know the real Keith Langley and we will remember.
ReplyDeleteIf Langley is upset with the board, then he should deal with the board. To go after Laura Ingoldsby to try to teach the other board members a lesson is cowardly and childish. That's like having a problem with someone and going after their little brother or sister. Keith, grow up - don't strike out at the defenseless because you're afraid to play with the big boys and girls.
ReplyDeleteI thought you really wanted to make a difference and were honorable.
Fool me once - never again.....
Langley has no conception of the word "honorable." How could he - his best friend is Defruscio and he doesn't even know what the word honorable means; but he's got a big house and a nice family!
DeleteNot only did they do the town an injustice by bringing in their own candidate for Finance Director; but birdbrain Grant decided to put it as a email to the employees congragulating him several hours after her leaving not by choice!~ You did a good job, SUPE - we'll remember this in four years ----- N O T. Bye Bye!~
ReplyDeleteI thought Keith was "different" too. I'm here for the "Good of the people of the Town of EG." Yet he can't stand up to his party's idiots and say "This is the way its going to be." What happened Keith? You told a couple of us "I wouldn't let you go. I'm not political," and like damn fools we believed you!" I'm telling ya - "I'm not that kind of person" and the damn Dems go and believe you. PLEEZ. Take that nincapoop ASS ISTANT of yours and resign; do us all a FAVOR. Your mad because we spend too much money so this was an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth! Let the Party Begin!!! Laura, be well! You're loved by everyone!
ReplyDeleteLaura is a nice person but she was NOT a Director of Finance. she was a payroll person. you may not like Sean Mulvey but his credential are far superior to what Laura brought to the table. OUR town has a huge spending problem just look at the last two hires and Pete Stenson's pending part time job. In order to get a handle on this we need qualified people in key positions. The plain fact is that Laura lasted 5 months longer than any republican appointee would have under a Dem. supervisor. (doubt this ever see's the light of day)
ReplyDeleteOK- exactly WHAT are his credentials and job experience that makes him such a desirable "Finance Director" ? Last I knew, he was an un-employable school teacher that can't seem to stay employed - anywhere.
DeleteProve me wrong - if you can.
let's be real,
Deletewhat are his credentials? definitely shouldn't make what Laura did with her years of experience.
BTW, Jim Breig is still on board after almost a year and a half under the Dems.
Sean Mulvey is "qualified" for exactly what?? He has the manners of a 4 year old , can't get a job - even his father in-law can't get this buffoon a job....that says volumes! EGB is worse off with this fraud in the finance department.
DeleteNow we can turn a school teacher into a Finance Director? I just think its WUNDERFUL that so many of us can change our credentials at the drop of a pin.
DeleteYes, Jim Breig is still on board after almost a year and he ought to be thanking his lucky stars!
Sean' has a bachelor's degree in finance, a masters degree in education and an advanced certificate in public finance. our town has a 2.1 million dollar red mark that is a serious problem no one wants to deal with EXCEPT Keith and now Sean. personally he has the credentials that I would want.one last thing anyone that is in an appointed position has to realize the precariousness of their job. when an administration changes you are probably going to be looking for work .
DeleteIf Sean has ALL these qualifications, how come he couldn't hold a teaching job? There's problems in mudville and he clearly ain't the might casey!
DeleteAnd...its not the Finance Directors responsibility to over see the "2.1 million dollar red mark". And its no longer 2.1 million, its actually considerably less. His job is to handle payroll, retirement and making sure health benefits are handled. If he screws up one thing or meddles with any of it without negotiation , there will be guaranteed lawsuits. Watch the fireworks now- Langley is a dope and Mulvey is a mistake!
you are mistaken on many fronts. from NYS Town law section 52 regarding the Town Supervisor:
Delete"1. Appoint, and at pleasure remove, a director of finance who shall assist the supervisor in the preparation of the preliminary budget and the capital budget, if any, and in the administration of other fiscal operations of the town for which the supervisor is responsible. "
The duties that you assign to the Director of Finance were handled in that position only because of previous appointments. While it is necessary work it is not the job of the director of finance. It sounds like you think he will attempt to unilaterally change negotiated agreements I think he knows better than that. As to holding a teaching job you can't be serious we have had numerous layoffs because of the economy and the funding cuts to school districts certainly you don't think every teacher that was layed off "couldn't hold a teaching job"
Well then I guess we'll just peel thru the public officers law and other executive laws to see exactly what can be done about this...huh? You opened the can of worms, now deal with the fall out!
DeleteAppears to me that that might just be the first contact for you and yours with any law books governing municipal operations. This place has been run like the Jukes and the Kallikacs for too long.
DeleteI don't know what you are all worried about. I predict in no time you will be hearing about a special meeting arranged under the radar to rehire Miss Laura to some unnecessary position through the current year at her same salary. The majority will rule and then there will be 4 additional patronage positions (counting the 3 hired for the DPW). So why the long faces?
ReplyDeleteStill no financial reports and still in debt. I predict a major tax increase. In fact I can sniff it -- coming from the direction of the sewage treatment plant.
Why the long faces? Because we have to look at that baffoon and company for the next 3 1/2 years but there's always a light at the tunnel! We will take control again in 3/2 yrs.and then they can have the long faces. Shucks!
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DeleteStop blaming the Republicans for what happened to Laura Ingoldsby.. This looks like the action of Langley and DeFruscio. There are a lot of Republicans in town who despise the way the Republican party is run and things are going to be done to change the Republican leadership in the near future.
ReplyDeleteAll Republicans are not the same - some Republicans believe in responsible and fair leadership - not what we are seeing now.
Many of us are fully aware that Defruscio nor Langley represent the true Republican party. So when does Defruscio get the boot and we can all get back to running the Town with the usual disagreements -- not the political foolishness from an extremely immature party leader?? Someone take charge before he ruins it all so bad that there's nothing left to salvage.
DeleteI agree with Bob, Republicans are not responsible for what is going on in our town. The only real Republican involved with politics and running for office is Rick Matters.
DeleteThe Republican chairman picked Mike Cristo to run - not a Republican, Ann Taylor to run - not a Republican, Ed Gilbert - not a Republican, Keith Langley - not a Repbulican....see the pattern.
I know we have a large number of good, decent Republicans in this town who are not being represented by going to the other parties for candidates and pretending they are Republicans with Republican values.
Why not try a novel idea....pick a Republican to run on the Republican line?
Also, the blogs that attack the Democrats are thought of as being affiliated with the Republicans - not true. Ray Mooney - not Republican, Don Johnson - not Republican, Dwight Jenkins - not Republican......the pattern continues. Think about it!
I agree - there are alot of good and decent Republicans in Town; ones who are fair; ones who truly do believe in friendship and honesty; like Mike Vanvoris for example. But unfortunately for the DEMS we didn't get the "good group of Republicans" in Town Hall; we got the bad asses! Don't sweat the small stuff; we'll take care of Laura and in THREE and a half years, we'll get rid of those Bad Asses! Bye Bye!
DeleteI believe Supervisor McCabe kept on Mason, Mastin, Breig,and hired others from different parties. He knew they were competent and would help EG.
ReplyDeleteWell maybe its time the Board woke up and took away a couple of these positions. Unlike Langley who couldn't stand up like a man and keep Laura, we need to consider who we can and cannot DEMOTE or GET RID OF. Harsh, maybe but its only fair.
DeleteMcCabe kept on ALOT more of them - Cristo cleaned out EVERYONE. Who's behind this latest foolishness ? Cristo for sure ! Denfruscion is too stupid !
DeleteJim Brieg is still there under the Dems lasted a lot longer than Laura.
ReplyDeleteAfter reading the comments of Bob and Harold, one has to wonder - with all of Chris DeFruscio's screw ups - if he is not really working for MOM....kind of like a double agent. Is DeFruscio really that incompetant a leader or is he betraying the Republican Party? Whichever it is - not good folks!
ReplyDeleteIf Keith Langley is taking his orders from DeFruscio, as suspected, that says volumes about Langley. My God...when are the Republicans in this town going to take back the Republican Party?
GET RID OF DEFRUSCIO BEFORE HE RUINS THE TOWN.
DeleteTOO LATE 12:58 ! He's well on his way to destroying the entire infrastructure of employees and before he's done - there will be nothing left to salvage for any REAL Republican !
DeleteChris Defruscio hasn't a clue whether its Labor day or Halloween!
ReplyDeleteWhen you put an uneducated , used car salesman in a position of power , this is what you get. He has no knowledge of the inner workings of East Greenbush nor does he care.
Chris thinks this is all a big game and he's vying for the "bully of the sand box" because he thinks it makes him look cool !
Cristo and Taylor started all this mess and once the people of East Greenbush sent them a clear message - they have fallen away - but Cristo still tells Defruscio what to do and its obvious that Chris can't think for himself. Too bad Langley can't think for himself either !
Don't make excuses for Langley - you can't put flowers in an a**hole and call it a vase ! He is what he is - and we've all watched for the past few months as Langley has slummed around with Defruscio and Torino. What did any of you expect?? Mulvey is just the "tip of the Iceberg"....so to speak - and what a big ice berg it is !
ReplyDeleteI'm sure Langley is wondering why no one wants to speak to him. Its not even the "Laura" thing, although he made a HUGE mistake by telling her on Friday she'd lost her job, then telling her at 8:30 to pack her things, while the ex teacher sits in his office awaiting his new position.
DeleteFormer Supervisors VanVoris, Angelini and McCabe had class; they would have never allowed such activity to be done that way. They would also make an attempt to interact with the Town employees, approach their windows now and then "Hey how ya doing, how's things in the Water Dept." or whatever department. Langley has hid his head in the sand since day 1, so we know where thats going to get him. Then he goes and hires his assistant who doesn't know how to deal with people; now we have another social misfit as the "Finance Director." Well it certainly has changed; it used to be such a friendly place to work; yes work there and socialize, a word apparently they know nothing about. The whole thing is sad; maybe they're getting tired of hearing "It was so much fun here or its not the same." Well its not and it didn't have to be that way. This is the way THEY have created our work environment; do your job from 8:30 to 4:30, take a lunch and get out as fast as ya can at 4:30 and basically ignore whoever you run into that you don't want to deal with at that present time. Good Job, Langley! You know how to make people feel "comfey!"
That is a mouthful 6:37 pm. Well said; you are a person who thinks with great feeling and admiration for the people you have worked with.
DeleteThats gone in todays world or should I say in our Town Hall. It has now become an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. We take care of our people, the take care of theirs. Langley; Ms. Grant and Mr. Mulvey need to go to "Charm School" and be taught what "socialization" is all about - they have no social skills, and apparently its noticeable by the above statements you have made. Someday I'd like to meet up with you - Thank you 6:37 pm
So much for the "if you do a good job, you won't have a problem" scenario. Who did their job better than Laura Ingoldsby? Come to work everday, except if she had to have a treatment, did her job very well and caused trouble for noone!! One of the nicest, most valued employees of the town and she is cast aside because Langley is a puppet. I hope you realize what you did Supe, cuz this is gonna cost you. You preach you are your own man and don't march to anyones orders....yeah, right. Stay Classy Keith!! Your true colors have suddenly appeared. You are no beter than that little Napolean who we kicked out of here a ctouple years ago. How's it feel to be in that league?
ReplyDeleteSupervisor's Report Through 6/12/12
ReplyDeleteI am pleased to announce that Sean Mulvey has joined the Town Hall staff, assuming the responsibilities of Director of Finance. His immediate focus will be the 2013 Town budget.
Sounds like another Cristo-Taylor budget in the making.
Worked real well the last time. YUUUUUUP! YUUUUUUCK!
its not the responsibility of the Finance Director to handle the 2013 budget ! Someone better tell the Supe what/who and why because this man hasn't a clue .
Deletewhat does the comptroller do? Isn't it his job to focus on the 2013 budget?? You people have no clue what your doing. The smoke screen bullshit that Mulvey is going to help with the budget is just that - baloney and we aren't falling for it. Jokes on you Defruscio !
DeleteThey will miss Laura about retirement buy backs and health insurance more than a payroll clerk. Hey Chris how about returning Town Property about time. Keith check you hang out with a lot of skeltons for a short time with the Town
ReplyDeleteOh you mean the 11 pairs of jeans he owes the Town! never to return them.
ReplyDeleteWe could go on and on about Defruscio's antics - but they all have that "little big man syndrome!" Must be something in the water. Can't be - there's only a certain few that would steal from the Town; ya gotta be lower than low! Look at me I'm powerful - I can do anything and get away with it. Is that called a Politican or a Crook? The best part about Defruscio is one of his bestest buddies WAS Ray Ingoldsby. This had to have taught Ray that his friend is a definite loser and liar.
Bottom line: Langley / Denfrusion/Mulvey and Grant are all in this for personal gain. The bullsh*t line of trying to save the Town is just that - bullsh*t !
ReplyDeleteHow long before the stooge releases personal information that he knows he can't disseminate? I'd be willing to bet he has already given private info to some political stooge and violated HIPA laws. He can't help himself.
As an overtaxed tax payer in this town, it is my understanding that the new supervisor is on the job part time at best. If the supervisors job is no longer full time, why are we paying him $70,000. Perhaps $35,000 would be more appropriate. Still pretty good pay for 15-20 hours a week.
ReplyDeleteDear Overtaxed,
DeleteMaybe the residents of the town are lucky the supervisor is only in town hall a limited number of hours.
Look at all the harm he has done with his limited involvement. Can you imagine the damage he would do full time?
As ANOTHER overtaxed , LIFELONG resident of this Town , I've never been so utterly disgusted with the performance of a Supervisor. I thought the Gause administration was bad until this Langley got in ! WOW !
ReplyDeleteWhere are the TRUE Republican party members? This ridiculous excuse for governing East Greenbush is nothing more than a veiled power grab by Rich Crist, Chris Defruscio and no doubt Mike Cristo.
The people of East Greenbush will deal with Cristo in the next election , but leaves many of us "old timers" to wonder when the real Republicans will deal with the likes of Defruscio and Langley. I heard Langley doesn't spend much time @ Town Hall- if that is true, taxpayers should demand his resignation !
and another thing..... we voted Ed Gilbert out resoundingly in November....who thinks this man knows what he's talking about? Why would anyone even listen to his skewed versions of anything to do with East Greenbush?
ReplyDeleteThe people of East Greenbush are being played as fools by these bogus performers acting as Republicans !
Republicans?? Do they even exist anymore ?
ReplyDeleteI'm amused about all of this talk about real Republicans. Who do you consider a real Republican? Someone who allows him or herself to shut up and roll over for the Democratic majority and take all of their BS? Is that what you consider a real Republican? This Town needs a really good house-cleaning and I am not saying that the new guys can do that -- but I think the Supe did the right thing by removing Laura I. from the job and putting in his own person. Maybe he doesn't interact with the holdovers because they don't interact with him. Who knows? I thought it rather amusing that he couldn't even rearrange workspace without Phil Malone having a hissy fit because his mother was moved from the front office. Yeah, that is really what the Board should be doing, micro-managing office space arrangements. Yeah.
ReplyDeleteAnd by the way -- when you accept a patronage job you have no entitlement to lifetime tenure -- you all know that.
I could name quite a few, Stan - if it didn't hurt them by mentioning names, I'd do it. But yes there are many good Republicans - the older ones outbeat the younger ones by a mile!
ReplyDeleteThe Real Republicans would never tolerate this foolishness and juvenile bahavior exhibited by Defruscio and company. There's no need for "rolling over for the Democrats and taking anyones BS"...but WTF is this crap? Lets be real honest here - this latest move is the worst thing in many ways. Patronage positions aside - placing Mulvey there will quagmire EVERYTHING for months. He cannot get along with anyone and will not get along with anyone. He is already suspect of doing illegal and immoral things both inside and outside of East Greenbush. Residents should be well aware that he is nothing but a political plant to leak information to the likes of Johnson, Mooney and Jenkins - who ARE NOT REPUBLICANS , because they intend to use it to gain information and facts they would not otherwise be entitled to....and that is a FACT ! Mulvey cannot be trusted and if his position was elected - he's history !
ReplyDeleteWhy is everyone beating around the bush on this. Bottom line:
ReplyDeleteMulvey is offensive,obnoxious,arrogant and ignorant. Not one person who has had any contact with him as of late has anything nice to say about him. Maybe he has all those degrees - but without any "people skills" - basically he's worthless in the workforce and it would explain why no one else would hire him ! Don't mean to be mean - but everyone is tip-toeing around when basically Langley just put the most offensive personality he could find in a job that requires "people skills" !
I want to thank Keith Langley for his actions of late. Keith, you have unified the Democrats and their friends like I thought only Chris DeFruscio could. Keith, keep lying to people, telling all that you are not political....I'm Mister Decent....then do the opposite.
ReplyDeleteI don't buy that the powers that be made you do it...I think you did what you did to Laura on your own and I expect more nastiness from you. Keep up the good job. You will never see control of the board...you've been exposed!
Wow! No warm and fuzzy reception for Sean? What's wrong with you people? Oh...I forgot his stellar performances at Town Board meetings. His juvenile antics are some of the most memorable in recent history ! I feel so very sorry for those people who have to deal with this man in any capacity. He is the epitome of nasty combined with arrogant and obnoxious !
ReplyDeleteSlim: I am one of the ones who witnessed first hand the "juvenile antics" of Sean Mulvey. Too bad that it wasn't caught on tape - or was it?
ReplyDeleteI doubt that the new Finance Director will have much contact with Town Hall employees if he is doing his job correctly. It is a number-crunching job, is it not? Might be just him and a lil' ol' calculator in a back room.
ReplyDeleteHeard he already messed up the pay checks. Bring Laura back
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely - bring her back and give her a raise.
DeleteWhat are we going to do; no one knows the payroll or retirement system like Laura.
Be a man, Langley instead of listening to your puppets and bring her back.
Ya know you people give democrats a bad name. I thought you were the party of the people. since when is wasting the peoples money a good thing. Carmela Hicks gets let go, but oh wait she's still there in another position. Two patronage hires in the DPW and I bet you dollars to donuts that poor Laura is found another position (at the tax payers expense) before the month is out and lets not forget the 14000 dollar raise for the DPW commish . The plain fact is you are all making noise because the free living on the tax payers back is coming to an end and you can't stand it. (wonder if this makes it my last one didn't)
ReplyDeleteWow...really...are the Gadflys crying about patronage positions...let me guess...Sean Mulvey wasn't a patronage hire. Ya know you people give humanity a bad name! You know what they say about payback...hope it happens!
DeleteEileen Grant IS a patronage hire ! Stacy Crain is a patronage hire. Mulvey is most definitely a patronage hire ! No one can dispute that!
DeleteI thought you reformers , thinly disguised as repooblicans , were the party for the people? Hiring social misfits such as Grant and Mulvey proves beyond a reasonable doubt that its clearly "do as I say, not as I do" with Defruscio and crew... your not fooling anyone.... People are starting to realize your all frauds...and if any one of you had a clue, we wouldn't be in this mess. Your screw-ups will end up costing os money before much longer- guaranteed!
Now lets pick on Carmela Hicks! The Seniors absolutely love her. Have you passed by Onderdonk the past two or three Thursdays - hte place is mobbed. Music in the Park has been a real success since she's been on board.
ReplyDeleteLets see if the Repubs can even compare to her charm, wit and all around niceness.
Why not let her go to - oh thats right, she's board appointed! She's always said "Laura's my best friend." Friends and politics are two totally different words. So Lets be Real, get a life.
I think MOM should give those bad boys a spanking!
DeleteGrant, Mulvey, Johnson, Jenkens,Cristo, Taylor, Mooney,all a group of social misfits who spend all their waking hours defaming ,libeling ,slandering anybody that does not agree with their warped view of the world. Be thankful you don't go through life like them
ReplyDeleteCristo - Taylor - Mulvey can't hold a job! Speaks volumes of exactly why they are so angry and disgruntled. If it wasn't for Daddy - Cristo wouldn't have a paycheck. Taylor has been terminated so much that we almost lost count. Mulvey - well his employment record-( or lack thereof) speaks for itself !
DeleteGrant- well if anyone thinks she's the secretary only because she's "taking one for the team" - better think again - she is un-employable as well. Would you hire someone with such a rotten disposition to represent you or your office?? The only job she got is because of Defruscio forcing Langley to put her there- THAT IS A FACT !
That Sheldon person - lest we forget about her track record.
UNEMPLOYABLE - that's why Defruscio pushes Langley so hard - because these people can't get hired anywhere else.....FACT!
I'm a Democrat who thinks the Laura firing was extremely poor judgement by Langley and DeFruscio. However, I find fault with the people who continue to criticize Eileen Grant. Does anyone really think that Eileen had anything to do with what happened to Laura? I don't. Put yourself in Eileen's shoes. How would you like to be the person working for Langley - not an easy job. Langley and DeFruscio did this...not Eileen...give her a break.
ReplyDeleteLet's not be like the Gadfly blog and throw stones at everyone and anyone. Their blog is trying to justify an action that can't be justified and they know it!
Yes - I do think she had ALOT to do with Laura being fired. ALOT !! As far as Eileen- she forced Defruscio to give her that job- she is there because SHE WANTS TO BE THERE!
DeleteDon't give her any credit. I doubt Langley could be bad to work for since he's never there. As far as personally working for him, he'd be like any other boss, full of S...
ReplyDeleteand always on your A..!
If she thinks its so hard, why didn't she go out and get a real job instead of working for the public sector for $30,000 a year. Oh thats right; she's already collecting a pension from the State - so does that qualify her for being a double dipper! She's in it because she's so damn nosey!
I wouldn't be surprised if all the criticisms of Carmela Hicks, Eileen Grant, Laura Ingoldsby and Kate Bennett was actually coming fron Chris DeFruscio. Mr. DeFruscio considers himself as the ultimate game player and would certainly like to deflect the residents attention away from hin and Langley and their actions.
ReplyDeleteNow I hear DeFruscio is telling anyone who will listen that he had nothing to do with Laura being fired....it was Langley. DeFruscio even tried to tell Laura's husband "it wasn't me, I had nothing to do with it and would have stopped it if I could have." Let's hear how many people from any party would believe DeFruscio is innocent...how about you Martha Andiago...were you there as DeFruscios' witness?
I see they are after McCabe again. Wanting to know what he did with the money he stole. I heard he bought a camera. You should see the photos of T Grant , Mulvey, Cristo, Taylor and Defruscio . What quality and soooo unethical on their part.
ReplyDeleteI've said this at least ten times over the past few months....when you choose a leader who is nothing but a used car salesman who embellishes on his life accomplishments , who was caught trying to steal votes and fix an election , who's best friend in the world is Mike Cristo - YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE - AN IDIOT RUNNING WHATS LEFT OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY !
ReplyDeleteTimmy...saying the same thing over and over again expecting a different result is a definition of neurosis.
DeleteBy whose definition? Bazooka Joe?
DeleteIts irrelevant who says what - the facts are that this new guy - Langley - is totally screwing up and his faithful supporters don't quite know how to cover for him.
ReplyDeleteHe's made several bad dcisions that he must now stand by.
The Town will suffer greatly over the next few years and once his new finance director screws up beyond repair - finally then , maybe he will see that he is nothing but a pawn in a much bigger plan to destroy this Town we live in.
Johnson and Mooney don't want a better East Greenbush- they want to blow your tax money and blame it on McCabe- EVERYTHING they blab about costs money to fix. They think they know whats best for East Greenbush.
Funny how voters reject the people who support their point of view ! -
(Gilbert,Taylor,Cristo)
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ReplyDelete9:39 - not that we don't agree with your sentiments but you must tone it down a bit. Change some of your words and we'll gladly agree and publish .
ReplyDeleteAll the Gadfly blog wants to talk about is stipends and issues that are several years old. Let's talk about Langley, the great uniter. He preached how he would unite the residents of all parties. No game playing, everyone treated with respect and dignity, no game playing with peoples jobs.
ReplyDeleteWell here we are less than 6 months later. People threatened, people have lost their jobs, no interaction at board meetings. Under Langleys rule, if someone brings up an important issue that needs to be addressed at the board meeting, it wll not be answered or discussed - as per the "great uniter", Langley.
Ray Mooney, Don Johnson, Dwight Jenkins - is this what you campaigned for and gave financial support for? We had one Chris DeFruscio - now it looks like we have two.
These are the issues facing the residents of this town. People wanted change and trusted Langley's promises during his campaign. All we got are broken promises and divisiveness.
Sorry, but that's the way I see this.
Langley....the Great Uniter....that's too funny....more like the Great Pretender!
DeleteWhateveer Denfruscions grand plan is - it clearly isn't working.
DeleteI disagree with most of what is said on this blog but one thing I do agree with-- Chris Defruscio must go if there is ever going to be any confidence in the Republican Party of East Greenbush. He was responsible for the "Martha" letter -- he was so controversial as the DPW commissioner that he couldn't even hold the job for a year. Loyalty can bite you in the A-- at times, don't you know?
ReplyDeleteditto !
ReplyDeletemega dittos as the rushies say
ReplyDeleteLets see how much loyaly the Supe will have if the TB brings Laura back? Doesn't that have to be voted on? What will you say then - Supervisor Loyalty? How will your gooney friends tell you vote?
ReplyDeleteGod knows you can't think for yourself these days.
Ray Mooney - who do you think you are? You have the nerve to make demands of others on your blog, yet lack the courage to run for the board on your own merits. Ray, are you afraid of the voters response to your candidacy? You should be!
ReplyDeleteKeep starting trouble and hiding behind your computer to throw your stones. The majority of us continue to be amused at your apparent sense of self worth.
Get a life - run for the board or continue to be an annoyance who reaches your 20 or so minions.
Come on give him some credit - you know he'll do the right thing and vote to bring her back.
ReplyDeleteEd Gilbert - where are you? You used to speak your mind. Now you've been relegated to Langley's puppet. Is it that important to get an appointment from Langley that he can tell you when to speak and what topics you can speak about?
ReplyDeleteShame on you Ed! When you sat in my house you told me how independent you were and would fight for the citizens. Ed - you sold out!
Do you really think Langly and Defruscio don't laugh at you and how easy it's been to control you? Ray Mooney, in my view, is an unhappy, unfulfilled, miserable man, but at least Langley was unsuccessful trying to control Mooney.
Ed - enjoy life as a eunuch - I feel bad for you.
Do ANY of you people ever think to comment on the real issues of this town instead of just ripping people apart? You all sound like a bunch of moronic 14 year old boys in the locker room at school.
ReplyDeleteIt's not like any of the Gadflys and Company has ever maligned anyone at all! Get over yourself 7:34 PM.
DeleteTHEY ARE THE REAL ISSUES IN TOWN, 7:34.
DeleteFreedom of Speech. We have a right to say whatever we want; we need to vent - and who are we going to vent to? Supe, I don't think so. The above blogs began with one of our good buddies, Laura - who was let go in a way that is ripping all of us apart. Don't know how you people would of handled one of your own getting the boot after so many years; especially one who just had thirty some cancer treatments; things changed - and not for the better. Walk in that town hall any day - we're not 14 year old boys or ladies; we're hurting because no one wants to speak to certain people - and its awful. Thank you for coming on board and staying in your own little world; the issues of the town are very important, but not as important as the welfare of the human beings that were truly hurt by all of this nonsense. Saddest part about it, it'll never change in the next 3 and a half years.
ReplyDeleteA little advice for the Republicans and Gadflys in this town. A change of leadership is desperately needed. Chris DeFruscio will never lead you to the promised land! I feel you need to look no further than Tom Grant Sr. as Republican Chairman.
ReplyDeleteTom is decent, fairminded, and respected. He also has a quality Chris severely lacks, Tom is TRUSTWORTHY - he keeps his word! No game playing with Tom.
Just my thoughts - if you are satisfied with DeFruscio then keep playing his game and see how you do.
moronic??? seriously - then describe the actions of Denfruscion! Describe the political foolishness and actions of Christo ! How about we describe the nasty temper of Taylor ?! Look in the mirror and at the people you are thinly defending...look no further than Denfruscion to see the epitome' of a moron !
ReplyDeleteIt is pretty obvious that Gilberts blog is under someone's control....I would guess he has to have it "Langley Approved" before putting anything out there....I would have expected a litte more from Ed and consider my vote for him wasted...wouldn't happen again though.
ReplyDeleteapparently the reformers need ANOTHER blog to get their slanted point across....
ReplyDeleteeastgreenbushwhisers.blogspot.com
authored by some friend of Cristo and Taylors...sure to be a shit show...let the games begin - again !
Authored by GiGi and BoBo - and I'm pretty sure we all know who they are.
Delete"And then you've got the Grand Torino demanding his favor for some relative. And then the Chair of the Reps cat-calling from the audience. At least Kim kept her mouth shut. (She didn't need to say anything because the Reps were such fools.)"
ReplyDeleteWOW !!!! Really ??? Denfruscion and Tirino acting up at a Town Board meeting?!?! Go figure- juvenile mentality and arrogance just simply don't mix !
Republicans - GET RID OF DENFRUSCION NOW !
No No. Keep him right where he is!
DeleteErcole and trashbag acting up at Town Board meeting ?? Mr. Supervisor should clear the room next time. He has that authority.
Deletelooking forward to seeing dep sup Ed G spin it on his blog
ReplyDeleterumor is that gilbert subbed for the Sup at the youth award thing. KL was suppisedly busy meeting with CDF.
DeleteHow sad is it that apparently Cristo and Taylor must create another venue to spew their vile diatribes against anyone they suspect didn't vote for them.
ReplyDeleteIt says that the blogmasters will remain annonymous - however you can't deny that only Cristo and Taylor have advertised this new slander page so its an odds-on bet that they will author and administer it.
This blog's anonymous. We can't be sure that Cristo/Taylor aren't authoring this one too to create some triangulation. They're sneaking up on us from all over.
Deleteu give em' wtm credit
DeleteWe can assure you that C/T have no rights or say with this blog .!
DeleteI think the e-mail Suzanne Aiardo sent to Langley and Matters that was published over on the Gadfly should be printed in the Advertiser. Unlike Martha Andiago, she is a real person and since she put it out there it is public.
ReplyDeletehere it is for ALL to preview:
DeleteSuzanne AiardoJune 21, 2012 12:33 PM
I sent this e-mail this morning to Supervisor Langley and Councilman Matters:
"My name is Suzanne Aiardo and I have been a resident of East Greenbush since 1986. I am a Democrat but not an East Greenbush Democrat. I voted for both of you in the past, because I am very disappointed with the Democratic majority in this Town. Nonetheless, I have to tell you that since January, I am very much disappointed in your leadership and conduct. There are numerous examples of your lack of leadership but I will highlight only a few.
1. The Ethics debacle is one. Voting with the majority to hold the hearing showed lack of support for the Ethics Board's draft version of its code and lack of principle on both your parts. It is clear that the Democratic majority will get their way, but why do you assist them? Why don't you speak out? And Keith -- you need to understand that a public hearing is NOT just a comment period. You cannot cut off questions -- the point is CLARIFICATION -- that makes a hearing less of a sham and promotes a notion that citizens are participating in government. I understand you had never attended a Town Board meeting until you were elected. It shows.
2. Keith --you have cut off any interchange between the citizens and the Board by your edict banning questions from citizens at a Board meeting. Apparently you cannot stand up to pressure from the majority or your voters. And Rick, what about you? You were often the most vocal and expressive Board member ever. You show little backbone.
3. Your cross-endorsement of the appointment of a Democrat to fill the Town Judge vacancy was appalling. Do you understand that is what your votes meant? Is that what you wanted to accomplish?
Now even if you want to support the Republican candidate in the election, the Democratic candidate can use your votes against your candidate.
4. Your firing of Laura Ingoldsby was a disaster. I certainly understand why you would want to replace her -- she was the facilitator for secret stipends and a lot of other mismanagement. But surely you could have anticipated the outcome. You could have used that as an excuse for firing her. Now we have another patronage employee on the payroll. Is she making more money this time around? Surely you could have just moved her to another do-nothing job. Your're lucky they didn't somehow find a way to garnish your paycheck.
Well, that is what has happened just recently. I could continue. Furthermore, the behavior of certain of your advisers at the meeting last night was unprofessional and on par with the worst of the East Greenbush Talks blog. If you really are taking advice from these people you show poor judgment and a lack of understanding of what your job is. In other words, you are no better than the last Supervisor."
All the Laura cheering section should remember that she was a facilitator (well reimbursed) in the distribution of McCabe's stipends. That story has yet to come to an end. Statute of limitations and all that.
DeleteThat dog won't hunt - your hopelessly addicted to your own fantasy that someone will be charged with some fictitious crime and you can gloat. Not a chance - that story was and is dead!
DeleteALL the Laura cheering section is laughing out loud at her "overly qualified" successor !
DeleteHe couldn't manage the return bottle section of Price Chopper.
Mr. "masters degree" in finance can't seem to figure out his new job?!? really ?? Mr. "over-qualified" doesn't have a clue - nor will he ever- he isn't all that bright and now your stuck with the ignoramus- Langley hasn't the balls to let him go because of incompetence !
Dear Ray Mooney;
ReplyDeleteI was very surprised to see something I never thought I would see, you were speechless when someone asked you why you weren't outraged at the treatment of Laura Ingoldsby. So lets hear it. Wheres the outrage about firing a longtime employee in the manner that it was done. YOu had alot to say about cutting salary for new employees, but nothing about firing Laura. Can you say double standard? How about hypocrit? Also, I heard nothing from you about the won adding to the payroll when it was for the new bookkeeper in ADDITION to hiring an HR consulting Firm at $150 per hour. Where is the outrage Ray, about adding all that money to do the job Laura did for all those years? Thats right, to sum it up, they fired Laura, with Mulvey sitting there, and replaced her with 2 people, plus wanted to bring on the consulting firm. How come you aren't yelling about that? Hypocrit.
Gilbert got his "approval" for a new thread. I've been watching for it...I knew it was coming. Laura was much more than a payroll clerk...otherwise why would they need outside HR..she took care of that too. I guess Ed still doesn't know what is going on. There is a lot of outrage in this town...and for a change it is directed at the hipocracy of the Republicans. I cannot think of one Republican I would ever waste a vote on again.
ReplyDeleteKeith don't feel bad,Aairdo is Johnson's wife she lost a lawsuit ,harasses her neighbors,and pretends she's a lawyer, she's just a continuation of the garbage the former supe had to deal with.
ReplyDeleteYeah, Ed Gilbert had his muzzle taken off by Langley so he could write on the TU blog. Ed, I doubt the majority forced Langley to get rid of Laura. We all know Langley went back on his word.
ReplyDeleteYou accuse the majority of wasting money, yet Langley & Co. had to create 2 town positions and propose hiring an outside firm to do what Laura did alone. You tried to stoke the flames last night with your condescending attitude but unfortunately for you, Phil Malone put you firmly in your place and did what few can do - he shut you up! Mr. Langley sat there and listened to Phil's presentation of what transpired with the firing of Laura and his going back on his word. You, Langley or any one of your guys never disputed anything Phil said simply because you couldn't.
Ed - spin away - people previously rejected your candidacy once and I'm sure it will happen again in 2013. You' ve graduated from failed candidate to a stooge for Langley and DeFruscio.
what "background in public finance" has Mulvey got beyond being on schools payrolls?
Deletehe forgot to add
DeleteI'm Keith Langley, err, Ed Gilbert, and I approve this message.
Mangold wouldn't support adding another patronage position, so the budget transfers and salary cutting had to happen.
DeleteEd Gilbert - the "new" Mike Cristo ! lmao !!
DeleteWheter you like Suzanne Aiardo or not she deserves credit for at least speaking her mind.Sue I appreciate your willingness to call things as you see them. People in town wanted change but I doubt they wanted the change Langley and crew have brought to the town. People expected more but are getting less.
ReplyDeleteIf Langley changed some of his "crew" of advisers he'd have a chance to achieve for the people who elected him the change they expected. To this point he has relinquished (and the Party apparatchiks have usurped) the authority he has as the elected official entitled to promulgate policy for his administration. To this point he's caved to the old Republican patronage bunch - witness the performance at the Board meeting. Langley still has a chance to salvage his administration, but he needs to separate himself from those he thinks of as friends and get a different compass.
DeleteThe crew Langley is taking advice from now (read Chris D. and friends) haven't a clue about governance. They want their place at the trough. Keith hasn't figured that out yet. Let's hope he does sometime soon.
Here, here!! Nice job, Suzanne & Pauline!
DeleteThank you for your kind words Pauline. I do not believe in following one party or another blindly like a lot of people do. The person who said the nasty things about me -- this is what I say to you -- put your name on your post or shut your mouth -- better yet -- you seem to know where I live -- give me a call and I'll be happy to talk to you. You are a coward and not a very nice person. At least I have the guts to put my name on my post.
ReplyDeleteMr. Gilbert do you really think it was neccesary to make fun of Mrs. O'brien becoming ill at the town board meeting to try and prove your point. How classy of you. Really good use of the privelege the times union gives you to blog and reach out to the public.
ReplyDeleteIt's DEPUTY SUPERVISOR Gilbert. Nice behavior for a pseudo official. An apology is in order little man.
DeleteMrs O'Brien DID return. Were it not for your blinders you'd have noticed.
DeletePS prep all you want she'll beat you come 2013.
I've known Keith Langley for many years. Keith is really a decent, nice person. However, Keith needs constant reinforcement of his self worth. Chris DeFruscio, as a long time friend, knows this. Chris feeds Keith with praise and encouragement while he is using Keith to do what he wants.
ReplyDeleteKeith, believe me, it's about time you find the courage to stand up for yourself and resist DeFruscio's control over you and start thinking for yourself. You'll find your real friends will regain confidence in you and Keith, you'll have a chance to shine. If not, enjoy your one and only term.
I have a question, perhaps someone can help me with. Is it fair or appropriate for Ed Gilbert to use the Times Union blog for political gain? Ed is the Deputy Town Supervisor for East Greenbush, appointed by Keith Langley. Ed used the TU blog as a bully pulpit to advance the political agenda of Keith Langley and himself. Is the TU okay with this? Does the TU even know what Ed is doing? If the Democrats were abusing this power, the Mooneys and Johnsons would be up in arms for sure.
ReplyDeleteOne other thing, off topic....I agree with Pauline that Sue Aiardo is not afraid to speak out against either party if they are screwing up. Good job Sue! We need more people like you!
To Suzanne Aiardo - My name is not really Pauline but I'm concerned about revealing my real name for fear of hurting my business in town. Politics are so rough - some people would boycott your business because they don't like what you say.
ReplyDeleteSuzanne, we know each other and I know you have no love for the Democratic Party in this town. That's why your your comments about Keith Langley's performance and the perfomance of his advisers struck such a cord with me. Suzanne, for you to go out on a limb like that tells me how truly disgusted you are with Keith Langley and the poor choices he has made up to this point. We're no better off, and most likely, worse off than we were.
Thank you for being honest and speaking the truth. Maybe when I feel it's OK, I'll talk to you in person. Thanks...
Pauline For Now
Suzanne: while I am admittedly on the opposite side of the political spectrum from you - I was pleasantly surprised with your open honesty of the performance - or lack thereof - of the current Supe and his "advisor" Defruscio.
ReplyDeleteNot a very nice person, now there's the pot calling the kettle black
ReplyDeleteOK- Ed Gilbert blogs for Langley on the TU
ReplyDeleteJohnson/Mooney have a blog for ???
Cristo/Taylor blog to avert attention
Jenkins blogs because its therapeutic
apparently the "whisper" blog now appears at the behest of Taylor and cristo.
WOW - 5 blogs needed to support the Cristo / Defruscio slander and propaganda !
They all openly mock EGTALKS - but obviously they are ridiculously jealous.... good for you Talks - keep it moving along and forward despite all the nay-sayers !
A question for "Real Friend" way back at 7: 34. Would all the really decent and nice people you know go back on their word from Fri eve to Monday morning, and demand that another really decent and nice person clear out her desk immediately so that the goon hovering by his side could take her place.
ReplyDeleteOr only the high principled champion, with the illustrious leadership qualities, who you say quakes before the political pressure of a used car dealer?
Anon, 10:56 PM - I concede your point. I keep thinking of what Keith used to be like, not what he has apparently become under the tutelage of Ericole Chris DeFruscio. I fear Keith has lost his way and, unfortunately, that's the way it is going to stay.
DeleteSupervisor Langley really is a nice guy; and this is coming from a Conservative. Had he distanced himself somewhat from his "fearless leader" and became friendly with many Conservatives, Independents and yes Democrats - they would of welcomed him, and agreed and disagreed; but he chose to have his mentor; Defruscio show him the way; and he's going to bury himself. The Republican Party would of done the same if the tables were reversed; you do anything to save an employee with an impeccable almost 20 year record, especially if they are quiet, do not get involved in the political nastiness of it all. Yes, Supervisor Langley what was done especially to Megan was not nice at all - but what did you really expect? Work with the TB; you may be mad but I guarantee someday you will realize Defruscio is the most evil and vindictive person you chose as your "mentor." He will hurt you, trust me.
DeletePoor Keith Langley appears to be so insecure that he has entered into a co-dependent relationship with Chris DeFrusio. Keith seems to think if he resists DeFruscio, he'll be all alone in his political world and that he must do what DeFruscio tell him to do. Keith, I would tell you to man up but I don't think you can.
ReplyDeleteKeith, when are you going to wake up and realize that the advice you are getting from DeFruscio, Torino and Gilbert just isn't working? You have people like Suzanne Aiardo and Tom Grant, to name a couple, who you should be talking to.
ReplyDeleteKeith, if you are looking for turmoil, keep the group you now have. If you're looking for results and respect, I'd call Tom and Suzanne NOW!
All you Chris DeFruscio haters - stop!
ReplyDeleteChris is the most honest, fair-minded, truthful, helpful, saint-like person anyone will ever meet! Has Chris ever lied, cheated, misled, or harrassed anyone? Of course not!
I think the Republicans should keep Chris on as chairman forever. What's good for Chris is good for the town.
Look at DeFruscio's rosy red cheeks....kinda reminds you of Santa...and who doesn't love Santa!!
Defruscion and Torino - what a pair !
ReplyDeleteTrash-bag and his side kick - the "used car super screwjob" along with the biggest loser in recent Town elections , believe they have a say . I really wish the Board majority would flex their collective muscle even more and strangle whatever else they can from these piss poor excuses for Repooblicans. Squeeze like Cristo did back in 2010 - just don't do it with the outright arrogance little Shakespeare did.
DeleteRay 11;46 AM - I agree with you....,the only way to deal with the group from the Gadfly blog is through strength. Any sign of weakness will be taken advantage of by that bunch of clowns.
DeleteThe board doesn't need some wannabe members telling the elected board how to govern. Ray, Don, or whoever - you want to govern - run and earn the right!
This message is for Joe LaMountain. I read your comments over on the Gadfly blog and while I am sure your efforts were sincere, you should know better than to think anyone from the other side wants anything more than to push their agenda no matter the consequences.
ReplyDeleteLet them continue to spread their venom and continue to suggest that Ray Mooney and crew are the only ones who should decide how this town is run. Ray argues about ethics - apparently he feels he can do a better job than Jack Conway. I do not. Jack and the board will come up with a good ethics code but hopefully not one that will satisfy Ray. I enjoy seeing Ray unhappy, which is most of the time.
Joe, you tried...don't let them bait you by continuing to explain your position. They really don't care. Also Joe, if you noticed...you signed your name and received a response form Anonymous criticizing you for trying to bring some civility to the way people treat each other.
Joe....you gave it a shot at civility...personally never thought for a moment they would have anything to say that could be misconstrued as caring about the town. They are bitter, bitter people. Don't waste your time with them....they are trying to bait you. An important thing to remember..never play mind games with unarmed people.
DeleteOh my gosh...Ann Taylor (GiGi) is retiring from blogging to pursue other interests. The scuttlebutt is that Ann would like another chance to run for the board. Don't believe that's going to happen Ann. Chris DeFruscio would never allow you to be on the ticket - sorry, that's just the way it is.
DeleteChris will find nice people to run and then find a way to sabotage their campaigns - it's what he does. Keep up the good work Chris!
No way - that vile, disgusting personality will come thru somehow-some way !
DeleteHeard she's moving out of state - don't believe that one either.
Where's she going -- to North or South Carolina with b.f.
Deleterumor has it thats where she's headed....
Deletenot far enough away -
DeletePoor Mulvey- still lost in his new position. He has no clue what he's doing. Mr. "masters degree in finance" is really kinda out of his league.
ReplyDeleteIf he can't figure out the Towns payroll, how is he supposed to make intelligent decisions with the Town Budget?
Talk around town is that DeFruscio wants to get rid of Rick Matters and run Ed Gilbert and a woman to be named later, in the 2013 election.
ReplyDeleteI guess Rick Matters didn't help his case any by sending Laura flowers to welcome her back to work. Rick, I think your gesture to Laura was both classy and appropriate - good for you!
Rick matters show a great deal of kindness by sending Laura flowers and sent a very clear message to his cohorts that they were wrong. Clearly, Mr. Matters is a cut above the rest of those slugs and needs to find some new friends. I am not saying Democratic friends...just new friends. Thought I would clarify that for anyone thinking he would go against his party.
DeleteIts called integrity and self-worth. At least Rick Matters can look himself in the mirror daily and know he is an outstanding human being who has civility to his name, other than those baffoons that let people go at 8:15 in the morning.
DeleteWake up Langley, your party is not what you thought they were. Listen to people that really care about you.
Think about this for a moment :
ReplyDeleteTaylor,Johnson,Cristo,Mulvey,Grant,Gilbert,Jenkins and Defruscio all have ONE thing in common , and it's NOT that they are the alleged Reform/Republican party.
They ALL have an axe to grind with the Town. They all have either lost an election-miserably , were removed from their posts due to incompetence, lost a lawsuit to the town, or had one of their relatives removed from their patronage position within the Town.
Think about the most recent series of topics discussed by Mooney. ALL of them revert back to this very topic. They will all tell you that they have the best interest of the Town in mind , but I call bullsh*t !
They have personal gain and their own version of nepotism/patronage at heart. Explain Mulvey and Eileen Grant for us- ? Patronage? -
They throw around alot of charges over there on the Mooney blog- that this blog picked on poor Ann Taylor - again I call bullsh*t! They conveniently forget what she wrote while she and Cristo campaigned. She got ALL that she deserved ! She started the battle, let her live with the consequences !
Her vote total would suggest that I'm correct ! She did more to screw and Republican candidate than any democrat ever could have - also something she has to live with and deal with. Cristo still can't fathom his low vote totals - still is arrogant about thinking people actually care about his opinion. Too bad this came down to this - but this entire mess over the past few years is completely and totally the fault of the quasi-republicans who have turned Town politics into a three ring circus ! Thanks must be given to Chris Defruscio- clearly the worst chairman to grace East Greenbush in the last twenty years !
Chris is a charming man. He can make up stories so anyone will believe him; then he goes to bed at night knowing he's cheated and lied the public. In the end, we've got our maker in Heaven or Hell to answer to - that says it all and we know Chris ain't going to heaven! Chris and Cristo will be down below singing "We are family, all my vindictive friends and me!" Sad, but true.
DeleteDidn't the fellow who can't get a building permit because of the sewer situation say that he'd tried to contact the supervisor a number of times with no luck? Anyone else remember this?
ReplyDeleteTo Anon. over on the Gadfly questioning, once again, the scrap metal. Please check with Mike Cristo. He was the liason and oversaw the complete operation of the Transfer Station.
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DeleteIt was the DPW commissioner and the Supervisor's job to oversee the operation of the Transfer Station. Board Liaisons have no direct administrative or management responsibility. Nice try.
DeleteChances are that the Dem. committee benefited directly from the scrap revenue which was skimmed from the Transfer Station during the McCabe Administration.
DeleteSo....Red Guynup told Langley he didn't agree with the firing of Laura....guess what? Red gets dumped for Ed Gilbert!
ReplyDeleteRed, you did the honorable thing, unwilling to sell out your values. You have earned the respect of me and many more. Keith, you will find you miss Red and made a mistake.
Cristo has denied any involvement with anything that he was responsible for while he was a Town Councilman. He alone screwed up more and ignored more than his cohorts blame the Dems for today.
ReplyDeleteWhat exactly are we - ( the taxpayers ) paying Sean Mulvey to do? It is my understanding that the new "book keeper" is handlng the paychecks because apparently " Mr. Finance masters degree" can't understand something so simple for such an educated man.
ReplyDeleteLangley is making it very easy for the majority in the next election.
You might want to ask the former Director of Finance how many ineligible people she put on the Town's employee benefit programs.
Deleteask her yourself....my answer is - NONE !
DeleteThe paper already exists. Try Bill Haney.
DeleteI realize Mulvey is new and all; but the Supe ought should really consider putting him in the courts and get Laura back where she belongs.
DeleteWhy change something that always worked. Its like putting an 8th grader in place of a kindergartener and vice-versa.
Laura get back in there where you belong. Put Mulvey in the transfer station with the garbage; Joe and Reggie, no offense. Don't know what the Town would do without you two! Your what keeps that place going.
Ladies and Gentlemen of East Greenbush, it is with great sadness and some small degree of frivolity that I must inform you of the passing from our political consciousness the insufferable but lovable Ray Mooney, Gadfly Extraordinaire. The Town's foolishness and depravity have sent him into a condition we've seen before in others (me), with symptoms not unlike comatosity: inability to think or respond to those matters relating to our corrupt and/or inept and/or both... East Greenbush. The collapse of the Ethics front was the last straw for Ray. To see an entire year of solid work be ground under the treads of the majority's tanks was just too much. He has the 1,000 yard stare and I fear we shan't see him back in action again. Yes, he has a pulse, but it is weak, desperately weak. Lies, excuses, and the using of people for their own benefit, on both sides, have driven him into a no-Man's land where he lays face down in a shell hole, unable to make it back. Godspeed, Raymond Mooney. We have lost a good man. *this is an unpaid advertisement for the Resuscitate Ray Club. Exclusive permission granted. Sincerely and really I swear I mean it, Dwight Jenkins.
ReplyDeleteBUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Too many Freihofers cookies is my bet !
WOW! another - reformer/blogger bites the dust - and yet EGTALKS remains. They have needed no less than five blogs to ram their point of view down peoples throat- and the Board majority supporters still have just little ole EGTALKS! Speaks volumes !
ReplyDeleteLet's see if Sue and Ginny support your crap publicly. We know Phil does.
DeleteEGTalks remains. Just like the cockroach.
ReplyDeleteGood to see section8responding
ReplyDeleteTALKS remains because the total B-S coming from people like June 27 @ 11:39PM ! They have visions of glory and that the people of EGB will vote for their distorted version of how a Town should operate. If we adopted any of their foolish ideas - we'd all be broke and unable to sell our homes because NO ONE would want to move to EGB!
ReplyDeleteI find it utterly amazing that the housing market in East Greenbush is currently thriving - despite the negative crap coming from Jenkins / Johnson / Mooney / Defruscio / and whats left of Cristo and Taylor. Its a testament that people reject the Johnson version of events !