Tuesday, December 6, 2011

Citizens Fiscal Advisory Committee Meeting

Citizens Fiscal Advisory Committee Meeting
Posted: 06 Dec 2011 12:27 PM PST

The Citizens Fiscal Advisory Committee has scheduled a meeting for Monday, December 12, 2011 at 7:00 PM.

The meeting will be held in the Community Room at Town Hall and is open to the public.

100 comments:

  1. Wow! Anybody read the grammatical nightmare Corine Sheldon signed her name to in the Troy Record? Her Crisco-esque ramblings makes one thing clear, she is the trouble maker that everyone at EGCSD says she is. Especially because, once again, she is misrepresenting the facts. Really Keith??? You can do better than her.

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  2. I just read her never-ending line of bullsh*t ! So very glad she didn't get elected- she's no stinking good !

    Langley has visions of putting her in Town Hall? Good luck with that move. She'll not last at all with her "taylor-esque" temper !
    Another Babe In Total Control of Herself !

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  3. Corine comes off looking like exactly what she is....a sore loser. Sounds just like Ann Taylor-her mentor.

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  4. Whistling Past the CemetaryDecember 13, 2011 11:47 AM

    And...the best part is ; that after ALL the B-S coming from ED GILBERT and ANN TAYLOR , and all the trashy garbage that they and their minion DWIGHT JENKINS are throwing around....NONE OF ITS TRUE!!!
    TYPICAL to form - they are lying about ALL of what they wrote ! Keith Langley has been meeting with the SUPE - and the other Board members and ALL IS GOING WELL and cordially.
    LANGLEY HAS NO COMPLAINTS! - NONE - NATTA-NOPE !

    TAYLOR and GILBERT need a lawyer knocking on their door- this Town has suffered enough of the continual BS- ole Donnie too !
    Oh Don: your obsessed with thinking there's something illegal happening....can't wait to see the look on your face when it all comes back as LEGAL and compliant!

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  5. TIMMY! Yup - I'm still here !December 13, 2011 1:31 PM

    Like I said months ago , Ed Gilbery is a political has-been - before he ever got started!

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  6. Whistling et al: let the lawyers get rich the truth is an absolute defense.
    It is ALL true whether you want to take your head out of the sand and acknowledge it or not. what they did is a matter of public record (at least what they have shared to date). What they haven't shared they are required by law to share and haven't. If anyone needs a lawyer...

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  7. Just read the nonsense that Corine Sheldon put in the record. All I can say is wow! That is our new book keeper spouting off about things she knows nothing about. Wonder how Mr Langley feels about his new bookkeeper running her mouth? He knows the REAL truth, he can't be too happy. Hope this isn't a peak into what it's gonna be like at town hall. Word is that she is very hard to work with, not very nice, and frankly, not a good employee. Better nip this in the bud while you can, Keith.

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  8. Whistling along a clear roadway !December 13, 2011 3:36 PM

    3:05 - Ya Think ?!?
    Moose: all relevent and pertinent information was ALWAYS shared with Matters AND Langley !
    No one can force Matters to share what he clearly knows and why Langley isn't speaking - well you decide !

    Gilbery and company et al are so far off base and NOTHING ILLEGAL has been done ! Again - why Langley isn't speaking is up to you to decipher

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  9. whistling, nothing criminal has been done, illegal is another story. As one example, section 109 of NYS Town law reads"§ 109. Final revision and adoption of budget. 1. After the public hearing, the town board may further change, alter and revise the preliminary budget, subject, however, to the requirements of subdivision one of section one hundred seven of this chapter.

    Guess what subdivision one of section 107 requires

    budget shall show by funds...salaries of
    elected officers,...

    Guess what was missing and is still missing? you guessed it! the salaries of elected officers Doesn't sound legal to me and if it aint legal it's ILLEGAL!

    This is what the whole dust up is about.

    BTW as the law reads they don't have to just share it with Langley and Matters they have to share it with EVERYBODY! They work for us after all.

    Hmmm I wonder if this will make the cut

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  10. Where do I find the new book keepers comments. Gilbert has been a screwball as long as I have known him. That will never change. I would be interested in reading ms sheldon's comments.

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  11. Down-n-out and disgustedDecember 13, 2011 6:33 PM

    I hope Keith knows what he's getting himself into with the people he's hired. Shame on him already to have the book keeper spout off her big mouth. Why do they have to hire people that failed in the election; is it to feel sorry for them? Plus the school kicked her out; VOILA - come on Keith, make your first decision as "Supe" and give her the boot before she starts and screws up your life royally! A slap in the wrist isn't gonna take care of this chickie! Look who she hangs out with; hatred and more hatred!

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  12. We've got to give this new "Supe" a chance; no matter how bad his new staff will make him look. He'd be better off for ONE year to keep the old crew on board to show him the ropes;at least they're all nice and civil - and won't tear each other's hair out; Corrine and Ann! and whoever the new secretary will be! What a crew; Hate, Hatred, and More Hateful! Good Luck to ya Keith, you're gonna alot of help from the DEMS.

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  13. Pulse of The People: Don’t trump voters

    http://www.troyrecord.com/articles/2011/12/13/opinion/doc4ee663001df62252538002.txt

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  14. Man on a Moose....You are absolutely on the right track. The way the law is constructed, the salaries of elected officials published with the Preliminary budget are to survive intact to the Final Budget. They cannot be changed from the Preliminary published amounts without the procedures separately outlined in the law. By changing the amounts for the Receiver of Taxes and the Supervisor on the salary schedule which some have and some don't, the majority acted outside the provisions of the law.

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  15. Read Prays....You airheads just can't compete.

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  16. Prays is the rantings of someone who has zero credibility. He's nutz and he writes like he needs a psycho-therapy intervention by Dr. Kavorkian . His viewpoint on the way things should be a be skewed by his hatred for anything Democrat - be it good or bad.

    Credibility would come if you all stopped embellishing and fantasizing about what you dream and wish for. Facts are facts- the law is interpretted differently by the powers at the State level - obviously , which is why no one is going out in handcuffs ! Stop crying wolf and wait out the audit report by the OSC- if there's something there - it'll come out and you can all crow your eyeballs out.

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  17. Read this by little Miss Giggle~giggle:

    "And, I for one, don't care for the EG Republican Chairman submitting false ads and trying to use his elected officials to play "Games of Thrones" with potential appointees and their lives.
    So---what did this election show us---BOTH sides are simply sneaky. BOTH sides have questionable Chairpersons. And BOTH sides are selfish with our tax dollars. That's why we all have to keep an unbiased eye on the process and our money."
    Wednesday, December 14, 2011 7:14:00 AM EST

    WOW! I bet that tasted like vinegar coming out of her mouth !! So the question is this : why is CHRIS DEFRUSCIO still the Republican Chairman ?? If Halloran pulled a stunt like that - she'd be gone n the blink of an eye - what's your excuse Republicans??

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  18. Linda,

    This is why Kieth Langley and Dan Fiacco wisely distanced themselves from the Rupublican camp.

    Ann wasn't singing the the "play "Games of Thrones" with potential appointees and their lives" song when Crsito Danaher and Matters did it in 2010.

    Have to give her credit for seeing DeF for what he is.

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  19. Not so much Danaher - but Cristo played ALOT of games back in 2009 and when he was confronted on them, he gets angry - quickly. Little Shakespeare thinks he's "untouchable" and should never be questioned. I will wait and see exactly what the Supe-Elect does with Defruscio,Sheldon and his other - "Mal-contents" running all over the Republican party.
    I think it's deplorable that Defruscio and Cristo still have the gaul to show their faces in and around East Greenbush. - Why Cristo? Because Defruscio simply isn't msart enought to plan the entire Martha Andiago debacle all by himself - he had help and it was MIKE CRISTO!

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  20. Who'd want to "compete" with DJII's rANNTs?

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  21. There are people from over there that like to come here and call people airheads, sleezeballs, thiefs, extortionists, and a variety of other pet names. Their insecurities are mounting because lets face it - the pressure is on them and Langley to perform. Its easy to bash from afar and make fun of and call names - ball is now in their court. Langley wants Eileen Grant and Corine Sheldon in Town Hall- this ought to be a circus! Neither has the personality or professionalism to act like adults - this will be quite the circus !

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  22. In reply to 5:13, Keith Langley will definitely have his hands full handling those two. It was a proven fact that Corine and her spouse were sitting at the board meeting making fun of people, as was ranntin annie & her friend. They thought they weren't noticed! HA! Think again, Keith about your appointments. The Dems will help ya out more than you realize. This Corine will be a handful! Time will tell; the warm and fuzzy will no longer exist when you walk through those glass doors! God Bless ya Keith You'll need alot of LUCK.

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  23. Friend of East GreenbushDecember 15, 2011 8:02 AM

    Bottom line : Langley will have to live with his decisions , just like Ole Donnie and Ray make McCabe responsible for EVERYTHING in East Greenbush.
    Eileen Grant and Corine will make enemies quickly and people never forget how they're treated by employees at Town Hall - should be quite the fracas and Langley will apologizing daily for those two and the guaranteed antics that are sure to be witnessed daily!
    Wait till they screw something up and have to lie and manipulate facts and figures to cover their tracks ! Should be well worth the wait !

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  24. Timmy - yup - still here !December 15, 2011 8:08 AM

    Oh the foolishness of it all !

    Taylor and company are doing some serious back-peddling today because they weren't able to
    justify their point on the Supervisors salary !
    SUCKS to be you and ALL your embellished rhetoric and banter. Ed Gilbert is a plain A-H and makes little or NO SENSE when he speaks. They are desperately trying to make something out of nothing because they have NOTHING and it shows!

    TAYLOR AND GILBERT - East Greenbush's newest temper-tantrum twins!! MORONS!!!

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  25. If the malcontents, specifically Ann Taylor, Dwight Jenkins and Ed Knowitall Gilbert had taken the time to investigate, they would have found out that Rich Benko was initially slated to be the Asst. DPW Commissioner. However, when Jim Moore took another position outside the town of EG - Rich Benko assumed all responsibilites on the Planning Board and had not been working as the Asst. DPW Commissioner. Mr. VanWormer had in fact, assumed all duties connected with both positions. Second, and more importantly, the Knowitalls should have realized that this salary is for next year that there is no Asst. DPW Commissioner slated in the budget. Mr. VanWormer will be doing all of those responsibilities single handledly.

    And that's a FACT!

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  26. You'd have thought when Tom Grant Sr. asked a simple question and was given a truthful answer -.....but no - Taylor and Gilbery are so full of bitterness and pent up frustration that they can hardly contain themselves.

    Ed- your a washed up wanna-be ! Your questions and tone expose you as a sore loser . Run for Dog catcher , your better suited !

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  27. GEORGE ABC-FEG-ST2December 15, 2011 11:36 AM

    AND...HIRE THIS SHELDON INDIVIDUAL AS YOUR ASSISTANT !

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  28. Yeah you guys (timmy,rosie,sanjay,friend)are such
    pinnacles of warmth and friendliness. calling people AH and washed up wanna be. Rosie if Ed isn't making sense did it occur to you that it might be YOU that is failing to understand a simple concept? Look at the two previous budgets from this year then look at the final that was put together only six days later. the changes made were huge. Hey if they want to make the argument that vanwormer deserves a 18 percent raise because he has no deputy then make it during the preliminary PUBLIC hearing don't sneak it through later. All anyone wants is honest open government you really have a problem with that?

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  29. Really folks. I'll take Eileen Grant any time. Different views but she is DECENT. Sheldon, dress your own conclusions.

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  30. I seem to recall Supervisor McCabe saying at the 2011 Org. Mtg. that Mr. Benko would function as Town Engineer but couldn't be appointed to that title until his engineering license is reinstated.

    His license is now current according to the State Education Department Office of the Professions.

    Furthermore, the salary scheduled attached to the Preliminary 2012 Budget has no "Deputy Commissioner of Public Works" but does have a "Town Engineer".

    Pete Stenson

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  31. Sleepy in the CarolinasDecember 15, 2011 12:00 PM

    Yo moose! "AH" and "washed up" clearly pale in comparison to what Dwight labels anyone who he doesn't like. Come on there - your worried about "AH" and "washed up " ?

    ED makes NO sense to anyone who listens to his endless dribble. Mostly because HE DOESN'T DO HIS HOMEWORK! He has been proven wrong and he hates to admit that he prematurely ejaculated - (thanks Dwight) all over himself about the SUPE salary because he was so intent on throwing mud all over the Dems! No ..!?!?!
    Gilbert and Taylor are truly peas in the same pod! They write about what little they actually know, and then chastize anyone who dares disagree with them!

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  32. Dear Sleepy.....I have the Salary Schedule which was prepared (and released to some) which to this point is to go with the Final Budget. It is a real piece of paper, and it is also the one Ed has. It has the $60K Supe salary and the increased Toni salary. The majority found out that they didn't follow the law and had to back off. Ed did his homework and is correct in his statements on the TU blog.

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  33. Super. What salary is shown for DC of DPW?

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  34. The one Ed posted on the TU blog. Done in the secret "dark days" before the Board meeting.

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  35. living the insanity and luving it !!December 15, 2011 2:02 PM

    wrong again...the majority followed the law and backed off NOTHING! Its funny how Langley walks away from those of you who think you know everything, yet are proved wrong and try to justify all of what you wrote. I don't hear the Supe-elect screaming about anything......is that silence I hear ??!! Gilbert was wrong - he should be man enough to admit it , otherwise he gets lumped into the "sore loser/AnnTaylor bitter bus" crowd.
    Funny how you folks who think you had the dems over the barrel now have to back peddle because you were WRONG! Your really a bunch of pathetic sore losers. The $60k supe salary was correct - and the remainder was allocated under different budget lines - SOMETHING MATTERS SHOULD HAVE SPOKEN TO YOU ABOUT!
    Taxreceiver salary would be fine with ALL of you had Sheldon and her under-handed tactics prevailed in November....stop your crying. Hypocrits!

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  36. Living... We are talking about the SALARY SCHEDULE which is to be published with the Preliminary and the Final budgets. It contains the SALARIES to be actually paid. You are confusing yourself with the Budget P/S lumps which can be allocated between different funds.

    It is the SCHEDULE which drives what is actually paid to individuals and the law treats elected officials differently than appointed employees listed on that SCHEDULE.

    With regard to Elected officials, the law states how the salaries are to be treated in the budget process. The budget process is set up in the law so as to prevent the scenario which the Board tried to accomplish. Can you imagine the chaos which would take place in every Town in NYS which experienced the same kind of election result as we had in EG if the majority of either party could jerk around a newly elected official of the opposite party? That's why salaries of elected officials are "protected" during the election process. They can be changed later - subject to the provisions of the law. In EG, the elected officials are the Town Board (including the Supervisor, the Receiver of Taxes and the Town Clerk. (Some Towns have an appointed Receiver of Taxes and an elected Commissioner of Public Works. The distinction is Elected or Appointed.)

    The Board still has a problem because they did produce a salary schedule with the Final budget which has the Supervisor's salary listed at $60K. I have a copy, and I should have duplicated it for last night's Board meeting. Look at the tape and you will see Board members stating that Keith's salary is $70K... But on what schedule?

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  37. uh where was ed wrong? he confirmed that Tony is getting a 5000 dollar raise he confirmed that the DPW chief is getting a 12000 dollar raise.It was interesting that the board would not commit to a salary for the supervisors secretary guess that one is still being negotiated. (a full month AFTER the budget is "final".) I suspect that they backed off the reduction of the supervisors salary when Ed shined a light on what they were up to. in today's advertiser Rick Matters states that there was no Salary Schedule attached to the Budget he received either.

    Here's the worst of it this is the standard for politics in EG. on BOTH sides we ALL deserve better. I think Rick was very eloquent in his closing remarks last night and I agree whole heartedly when he said "you win with integrity and you lose with integrity. I'll tell you what is missing from this whole budget mess...Integrity.

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  38. Republicans: stop creating havov for Supervisor elect Langley; he's a good guy and you morons are creating a "down fall" for him already. I dont think Eileen Grant will be the problem as will Ms. Sheldon; she's got the reputation of a big mouth trouble maker. The least Keith could of done was put her on part time to see if she passed the test instead of giving her a FT position and having to get rid of her. He'll learn who his friends are and the people that are using him.

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  39. Man on a Moose..you avoided the main point of Rosie's response. Dave VanWormer is doing both jobs; Commissioner of Public works and Deputy Commissioner, and is slated to do both jobs in 2012. Rich Benko jumped in to help out at the planning board because he was desperately needed there.
    I believe Rosie's comments were responding to Ann Taylor's Town Board Meeting Answers Lead to More Lies - well, Dave VanWormer wasn't lying. He was and is doing both jobs. Do you care to dispute that?

    As far as an 18% raise - is the town better off giving someone a nice raise for taking on an additional job and saving the residents of EG a substantial amount of money - or would you prefer we pay someone else to do the Deputy Commissioner of Public Works job at a substantially higher cost to us all?

    Why so much negativity? We should congratulate Dave VanWormer for stepping up. You should not be playing politics when someone is performing beyond what is required of him. If you can't, I will congratulate Dave VanWormer and Rich Benko for stepping up and doing a great job.

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  40. I was at the Town Board meeting Wednesday night and couldn't help but notice how Ed Gilbert continually stared at Phil Malone. Does Ed have a crush on Phil or is he so envious of Phil and Phil's position on the Town Board, a position, I might add, that Ed coveted badly, that he is losing control of his senses? Poor Ed - I hope you can put your jealousy aside and get over it.
    4 is still a number!

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  41. Joe Here is the issue Mr. Vanwormer May very well deserve the money he is getting and it may be a good deal for the town. but it is something that should be discussed publicly not in the underhanded way it was. what we were told publicly and what happend privately STINKS. @Charlie, Really? this is your contribution to the discussion?.

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  43. Man On a Moose

    Just because you don't like a decision doesn't mean it's underhanded. If you want a say in every decision, get on the Board.

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  44. Man on a Moose - Yes -"Really"...

    Anyone who watches Ed Gilbert's reaction to Phil Malone can plainly see that Ed has problems with Phil. Is it unreasonable to conclude that Ed is jealous of Phil and what Phil has accomplished?

    I'm sure Ed would love to sit on the board but was unable to beat anyone in the election. Oh, and Man on a Moose - I at least use my first name not some ridiculous moniker. By the way, what part of the Moose are you on?

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  45. Charlie , I can't speak as to whether or not Ed is envious of Phil I am sure he would have rather won then lost but that's the way it is. What I do think is that ALL the candidates ran a very clean issue oriented campaign
    and that if Ed is criticizing the board it may be because they deserve it. Your observations are your own and are not plain for anyone to see. I could sit here and make the same claim for anyone in the room but my rhetoric
    would not make it true. I am surprised that your original comment was even allowed in the discussion as it really has no redeeming value. What I have noticed about Ed is that he will call out anyone when he thinks they deserve it. I remember him giving Rick Matters a hard time when he delayed the vote on the Fed Ex PDD.

    As for my moniker I'll keep using it. It is unique and people will know it to be mine. I could use any first name I wanted as could you how would we verify it? I just can't stand everyone using the anonymous tag you can't
    tell if your having a discussion with the same person.

    @7:22 Man I still don't get why people aren't grasping this. I’ll try once again. Yes I get that the public is not going to get into the minutia of every Board decision there is plenty of every day business that the Board and the supervisor deal with that would get bogged down if the public was to weigh in on every decision. That is why we have a Democratic Republic. We democratically chose our representatives to handle the public's affairs
    and represent us.

    At the local level there are laws that require public notice and discussion about important matters. One of those is the Annual Budget. The
    law requires a public hearing on the budget and a certain amount of disclosure. The idea is to let the public know what is planned for the
    coming year and get public input on how the town is spending our tax dollars. When that hearing is held the public assumes they are being dealt with frankly and honestly by those that are presenting the annual budget. Certainly some tweaking is expected before the final budget is passed. Budgets by their nature are fluid documents up until they are finalized.

    Here is the issue at hand, the budget presented to us at the Town hall meeting wasn't tweaked it was overhauled. It had huge differences in lines for offices and salaries. The CFAC recommended a two percent raise for non
    unionized town hall employees, it was not in the budget. Six Days later it is a 3 percent raise (or more). There were major swings in salaries as well. The required disclosures that have been part of every recent budget are still missing. It is evident that the public was not given a frank and honest assessment of the annual budget at the public hearing. People don't like being intentionally misled. I feel and I don't think I’m alone, that when your government acts in this way the citizens have an obligation to call them on it. You may consider it jealousy, or being a malcontent, I
    consider it a duty.

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  46. Thank You, Man On A Moose!! Your last two paragraphs are particularly on point.

    Now I think the Board has a serious problem in that they passed a Final budget with a salary schedule that did not preserve the elected officials salaries at the amounts disclosed with the Preliminary budget. I don't know how they are going to fix it. They may try to muddle it thru and hope nobody raises a fuss. But I think they'll still have an "illegal" budget which I would guess might be open to challenge at some point in the future.

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  47. I just checked my secret decoder ring:

    Man on a Moose = Mike Cristo

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  48. Man On a Moose:

    "Your observations are your own and are not plain for anyone to see." "really has no redeeming value."

    Same could be said of your comments.

    You claim the adopted budget "wasn't tweaked it was overhauled". Look it up, less than 12K increase in the tax levy. Hardly an "overhaul".

    Can't compare to the smoke Cristo and his fellow County Legislators blew up Jimino's nose!

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  49. Man on a Moose aka Mike Cristo, lets see him deny this one. I love it!!!

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  50. Man on a Moose = Mike Cristo = ROFLMBO!!

    I hear he's got a lot of time on his hands!

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  51. anon 2:14 Time for a new ring

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  52. My secret decoder ring just revealed that a bunch of you over here are more interested in who says something (in order to dismiss it) than in what actually is said (in order to engage in a rational dialogue).

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  53. Anonymous 2:14 pm. Only Mike Cristo sounds a pompass ass and yes he has got to be Man on a Moose! What other chooch could sound so stupid?

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  54. Great piece of reading from the other blog:
    Ann Taylor said...
    15 #13--Treating the Supervisor-elect with a shred of decency would make sense if he was not playing along regarding negotiations and such for positions and salaries he and his appointees are legally entitled to. He too, seems to be playing games with tax dollars and he is not sitting in the Supervisor's chair just yet. To create full-time positions that are only part-time responsibilities is wrong. When the Dems do it we call it wrong and when a Repub does it, it's just as wrong. The whole situation is disgusting. Roll with a dog that has fleas...you get the fleas too.
    Is she saying what I think she is saying that Keith is playing with tax dollars and he is not sitting in the chair yet? Holey moley; he's not even "christened" and is party is giving him issues - now she's a friend of Corrine, so take it from there, Supervisor Elect; you need to make some serious decisions before January 1st or your screwed with the "nutcase" who doesn't and won't play well with others.

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  55. Mr Johnson check with the Association of Towns they will tell you whether it is or is not legal to give the Receiver of Taxes a raise after the preliminary budget. I'm sure if it's illegal she would have to refuse it.

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  56. I think the question could be asked of the Association of Towns, but probably more appropriately asked of the Office of the State Comptroller. I think the crucial distinction is whether an official is elected or not. I think the question to be put to OSC is whether elected official's salaries stated in the Preliminary budget salary schedule are preserved to the Final budget salary schedule, and then open to change in the manner prescribed by the law.

    If Receiver of Taxes is exempt from the distinction of elected or appointed, I think it would be rather strange.

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  57. Jumpin’ Jehoshaphat! You just don’t get it. Some of us are having an actual dialogue on the behavior of our elected officials but all you can contribute is Man On A Moose must be Mike Cristo because he sounds like a “pompass(sic) ass”. Yeah I’ll bet he reads lots of them fancy books with big words too. He probably had you scratching your noggin when he discussed things like a “Democratic Republic” or tried to explain why your local government has to follow some basic rules. Then you have the audacity to end with “what other Chooch could sound so stupid” how about someone that can’t even spell the word “choice” (at least I think you meant choice what the hell is a chooch)or “pompous”
    Ron White had a great line for folks like you “Next time you have a thought, let it go.

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  60. Moose Man, you spelled Jehosaphat wrong you pompous chooch.

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  61. So annie put her foot in her mouth again, by pointing out the fact that there was no salary for the deputy commissioner on the 2010 salary schedule. She asks why the Commish. should get a raise for doing both jobs when the D/C job has bben done for free in previous years. This just shows how uniformed she really is, since in 2010, there were 2 paid Deputies at 10K each!! 1 of them being the Commissioners brother in law, Red Guynup!!! Isn't his what they are railing on now?? Salaries not being on the schedule? Unreal.

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  62. "RESOLVED, that Paul Mason and Robert Guynup be appointed as Deputy Commissioners of Public Works each at an annual salary not to exceed $10,000.00" - January 13, 2010.

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  63. @9:53 no I didn't. But the real question, and what I really can't seem to find an answer for is...what the hell is a chooch?

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  64. @8:05 What you describe is a perfect example of the importance of full disclosure at the Public Hearing. For the budget in 2010, we had 2 people covering the responsibilities of the Deputy Commissioner of Public Works. In 2011 it was 1 person. Then in 2012 the position is no longer needed. What I would like to know is; why did we need the position in the first place?

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  65. Chooch comes from the Italian word ciuccio meaning jackass.

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  66. Just Google it.....it's there.

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  67. Man ...

    2010 - DeFruscio was Commish ... needed 2 Deps cause he didn't know squat.

    2011 - VanWormer's Dep, Benko functioned as Town Engineer.

    2012 - VanWormer with no Dep - Benko will be Town Engineer

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  68. Scary to read Ann comment as if she's both in Langley's inner circle and his biggest enemy.

    He'd be wise to stay far away from her, Mike and Chris.

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  69. Corine The MachineDecember 19, 2011 4:56 PM

    They never ever learn, those rebooblicans. All Corine had to do was shut the eff up and not cause trouble and she would have a nice cushy town hall job. But that's not happening now. The rumor mill has it that Keith was going to make her the bookkeeper until she started trouble, like that farticle in the Troy Record. Will they EVER learn that when they cause trouble it always backfires? I sure hope not!

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  70. Whoa, I guess that explains what Annus was complaining about on her blog. She kept saying people got messed with, so it turns out it was because her friend Corine got clipped by the new Sup! Too funny. Annus's list of enemies grows by the day.

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  71. Did any of you catch the Kip and Corine act leaving the Town Board meeting the other night?
    They are immature and classless individuals.

    rANNt wants some degree of exposure and credibility for her little gaggle of morons - well then they should start acting like adults and not the trashy juvenile delinquents they appear to be !

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  72. Whistling past the CemetaryDecember 19, 2011 10:30 PM

    Never in my life have i laughed as hard as when reading Taylor and her delusional writing about how Langley has already "jumped ship" !

    OMG! Priceless !

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  73. Ann now hates the Republicans. Is there anyone she likes? Her friend in the mirro might be the only one left.

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  74. You boys and girls have bigger problems than Annie hating Republicans.....

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  75. We have bigger problems; what are they? Supervisor McCabe is finally going to get the freedom he so deserves - he's been an inspiration to many of us. Supervisor Elect Langley will now get the opportunity to run the town as efficiently as he sees fit with the help of Malone, Mangold, Matters and O'Brien; yes a team of Democrats working with Supervisor Langley; yes thats right -- Who will turn against him in a short period of time and make his four years miserable? That answer is simple; the Ann Taylor's, Mike Cristo's and Chris DeFruscio's. Why is that? because he will do the right thing and OMIT these "troublemakers" from his list of people he knows. You see fellow problem-makers it will be a win-win situation for the new Supervisor Elect; unfortunately for Mr. McCabe he had to take the brunt of all that went wrong in this town and he did it with dignity and class. He was blamed for Rt. 4 Corridor, Fed Ex, for floods in the town, for mailboxes being torn down and for so many other issues that came up; it was all his fault. Yeah right?
    Should be an interesting year; the winner in all of this is Rick McCabe, he gets to leave and have a wonderful life. Thank you for the best 6 years I've ever had.

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  76. NO problems here or Town Hall.

    Annie's no problem just hot air.

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  77. Anxiety runs amok over on little miss giggle~giggle boom-boom blog ! She is clearly the queen of paranoia and she likes it that way. The queen of bitter and the epitome' of a sore loser has spun herself a great web of deceipt and desention amongst the kool-aide drinkers !

    and...then there's political disgrace #1-( Shakespeare) writing his political drivil like he actually knows something. Hey Cristo: OSC is already in the house and they ain't finding anything!! You morons will have to find something new to complain about !

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  78. I'm surprised McCabe didn't get blamed for the the world recession or get placed on the grassy knoll.

    BTW, the 'reformers' have already turned on Supervisor Elect Langley. Hope he washes his hands of the lot of them.

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  79. Hey Timmy....It is highly irregular and unacceptable professional practice for an auditing agency to give an auditee three months between an engagement letter and actually beginning an engagement. You might want to ponder and/or investigate the implications.

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  80. Hey whoever : I don't need to investigate squat ! The State - ( OSC ) is in the house and I trust that they will perform an admirable and complete investigation , and when it comes out that there was no wrong doing and NOTHING illegal was performed - I will encourage all the board members and the soon to be ex-Supe , to file the appropriate lawsuit to stop the never ending nonsense from people who simply don't get it!
    I am a firm believer that the anxiety and foolishness coming from over on Reform/Tea party street is nothing but political banter designed to rile the consituency and hype the taxpayers into believing some foolish cackophony because a bunch of selfish people who have an axe to grind are hell-bent to embarass public officials! That is my opinion.

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  81. Timmy FYI a lawsuit has already been filed, takes time.

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  82. Supe using his stipend money???

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  83. So anony @ 4:37.....What would be the matter of law being litigated?

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  84. Outstanding ! I can hardly wait for the reaction !

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  85. 'bought time somebody puts it to them f-er's over there. Had about enough of their infamous b#llsh*t! LOSERS NEVER LEARN!

    They just can't help themselves with the cat calls and unsubstantiated claims of improprieties against the Board. I'll bet they use straight vinegar on their food !

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  86. Odius....it's FUD. Don't you read the comics?

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  87. In the spirit of Christmas , I am asking both the republicans AND democrats to set aside their differences , and focus on the one thing we all seem to agree on - that rANNT and Crisco are the worst people on the planet as are their minions Jon-(hic) Dohnson , May Rooney, Chris Denfruscion and the rest. Troublemakers that both parties dislike !

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  88. PLEASE!!! ENOUGH !! whats next ? THIS SH*T HAS TO STOP ! move on we are better then this trash .Both sides are a mess just work with each other for the betterment of the town . Step back and re think and stop all the hatred . Put down the past and lets look a head together the town will be a better place for us all.... MERRY CHRISTMASS FRIENDS I wish you all well : ] PS >> Rick I wish you and your family the very best and maybe someday we will be friends again ! PEACE!

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  89. Old EG I agree and anonymous 5:37 nailed it too. The one common thread we all share is a distaste for Mike & Ann Cristo. If dems and repubs band together to fight the evil Cristo Cult, EG will be a better place. EG unites against the Cristo Cult! Merry Christmas all!

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  90. QUESTION: When do we let the cat out of the bag that Keith Langley was a democrat operative planted to run as a republican? They bought it hook, line and sinker. Way to go Keith! Welcome back to the good side!

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  91. It sounds to me like Old EG is Pat Cristo...

    Pat must be sick of all of the crap perpetrated by his son. I'm sure Pat loves his son but has lost a lot of friends and endured a lot of embarrassment because of Mike's behavior. Knowing Pat, he would want to mend fences and try to get along for the benefit of the town. That doesn't sound like one of Mike or Ann's goals...getting along is just not something they would understand.

    Just my feeling on who Old EG really is.

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  92. What does it matter what Keith Langley is? He's going to do his best for the community and thats the way it is. He's far from a stupid man, and he knows who the "devils" of this town are or should I say trouble makers are and he'll stay clear of them. Its not rocket science; you know who's going to bring you down and who's going to truly be there for you. His presence in the Town Hall has been made, and he seems like a man of class and honor. So you mean and nasty Republicans or whatever you call yourselves - go suck on an egg; move out of state - or do whatever it takes to "go away" for the upcoming year and let him do what it takes to run this town.

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  93. I honestly the ones that run this blog would be willing to stop, how about it Ann an Mike, we know you read this please respond, were all good and we all make mistakes.

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  94. I don't think Pat writes on blogs or even reads them. I do agree he must be very embarrassed about his son.

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  95. I've known Pat Cristo for over 40 years. He was always an honorable and decent, caring man.
    Too bad his son has gone wacky and disgraced the family, his wife and kids and family business.

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  96. I'm sure Mr. Langley is familiar with the saying "the enemy of my enemy is my friend."

    The reformers now appear to view him with the same disdain they have for the Dems.

    Thanks Mike and Ann! Keep up the good work.

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  97. GEORGE - ABC-FEG-ST2December 23, 2011 2:53 PM

    CRISCO AND FAILURE TAYLOR HAVE ACCOMPLISHED ANOTHER SITUATION OF DECEIT AND SMOKE AND MIRRORS!

    THEY HAVE TURNED ON OLE LANGLEY BOY AND ALL THE BULLSHIT ARTISTS FROM OVER ON THE CRISCO BLOG ARE ALL CHIMING IN! YOUR ALL DRUNK AND IN DESPARATE NEED OF A GOOD ENEMA ! CONGRATS TO THE BOY CRISCO FOR SCREWING UP ANOTHER ELECTION YEAR AND JUST BECAUSE HE CAN'T HAVE HIS WAY HE HAS NOW UNLEASHED HIS GIRLFRIEND ON POOR LANGLEY.
    TYPICAL FOR THE BOY WONDER!

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  98. 937 and 452 - Merry Christmas !

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  99. Boys having a problem using the English language in a socially acceptable manner????? Stands to reason.

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