Well, despite the pleadings of my co-bloggers...the following MUST be set straight.
At a special Town Board meeting, the Board acted to correct an over 20 year mistake with specific regards to Officer Edward Mianos retirement account. The town had never transferred Miano over from NYS Corrections retirement to the NYS Police and Fire Retirement, thus shorting his retirement account significantly and making it virtually impossible for him to legally retire from service.
Apparently , Taylor the temper and her pack of wild dogs have taken this to mean - or at least they think and want people to believe - that the Town must be up to something- .........WRONG!!!
You are dead wrong - AGAIN!!! The action taken by the Town Board was a necessary pre-cursor to action that the STATE Legislature will take so that a 21 year employee can be made whole again and retire from Police Service ! THATS'S IT - NOTHING MORE !!!!
There's also a former NorthGreenbush Officer who will benefit from this same bill by the Legislature! There's nothing hidden here ! That is the ABSOLUTE TRUTH!!!
And...if you think there's more to it than that - PRINT IT- but there is NOTHING MORE TO IT THAN THAT . Talk about not having a life - Ann- go plant flowers, bake a cake or do something constructive !! Your really showing how completely immature and incompetent you are!
Please enlighten us..... What did Ann say?? The material on the other blog is pure fact.
ReplyDeleteWhere is the North Greenbush Officer listed in the Miano bill?
ReplyDeleteThis is done all the time in Albany. Just giving the man his due.
ReplyDeleteCalling Ann Taylor the Queen of Mean is actually kind of nice...in comparison to what most people call her.
ReplyDeleteI don't get what the Special Meeting thread is about....it was posted on the Town site. It's not like it was a big secret. I think Ann needs to get a job or something...one that requires her to work so she doesn't have so much time for this nonsense.
358 - its her outright insinuation that she believes something "underhanded" is being done! If you can't read that - your just as bad as her! Not everything the Board does has a political twist/slant . Reformers are like a disease and I agree with EGTalks- they all need to get a real life and leave the business of the Town to the people who can actually DO the business of the Town ! Ann is a true sh*t-stirrer and nothing more ! Just calling them the way I see her ! Giggle~giggle !
ReplyDeleteJEFF IS RIGHT! SHE IS NOW TRYING TO SAY THAT SHE JUST POSTED PUBLIC INFORMATION - B-SH*T! SHE WAS LOOKING TO START CRAP AS USUAL. SHE LIVES UP TO HER REPUTATION EVERYTIME SHE OPENS HER MOUTH OR TYPES ON HER COMPUTER! GIGGLE-GIGGLE-BOOM-BOOM!! NOW THAT'S FUNNY !!!
ReplyDeleteThe Northgreenbush Town Board is basically mirroring the EG Boards resolution. It is not part of the EG Board resolution. They too , apparently have a officer looking to retire that needs the same legislation.
ReplyDeleteTALKS ; your right on the money with this post! She is trying her best to stir the pot. I posted over on her BS blog, knowing full well she'll never post it ! She hates the cops because Cristo hates them! The cops didn't back her two failed campaigns and she's pissed. Cristo calls the cops incompetent and imbeciles at a Town Board meeting and then wonders why they didn't back him or the reform party last year !? Go figure. She's flat-out pissed and her "poison-pen" speaks for itself !
ReplyDeletejust another babe in total control of herself! ROFLMAO!!!
ReplyDeleteJon Dohnson would be proud ! Mukvey and Gilbery too
In the sauce right on time guys....
ReplyDeleteShe can't help herself anymore. Her temper over rules her tad bit of common sense.
ReplyDeleteI'm sure this will go on ALL summer right up to the November election. The woman has no life and thus nothing but time to fabricate more non-issues into fodder for her to write about and spin out into left field.
It seems like that is the creed of the reform party anyway - take a little non-issue, inject it with kool-aide and blame it on the dems and make it look and sound like a conspiracy. Blog about it endlessly and when your questioned, simply deny, deny, deny. They're like a broken record. Keep drinking the kool-aide people, the prozac is on back-order !
I'm not sure there is enough Prozac in the great Northeast for Ann....there appears to be some real issue with her as far as mental health goes!
ReplyDeleteFriends and neighbors: If I might attempt to provide a point of balance in this "discussion"...
ReplyDeleteOur town, and I would suspect other towns, often schedule special meetings. And a review of the agenda suggests to many people that these special meetings easily could have been a part of a normal Town Board agenda. That triggers what might be perfectly legitimate questions as to the real need for a special meeting.
These special meetings are held at unusual times. It might be argued that these unusual times are intended to exclude as much of the public as possible from attending. That, too, it seems to many of us triggers legitimate questions.
If the town is doing everything on the up and up special meetings held at inconvenient times that exclude public comment should, wouldn't one think, be pretty rare?
Attacking the questioner seems so petty and ineffective. It more tends to confirm that all this defensiveness is because there is something our friends and neighbors should be wondering about.
Last point - and thank you if you decide to post this - we have not just the right but the civic duty to question our elected officials.
Queen of Mean my foot....
ReplyDeleteShe's more like a Bit** with an Itch...that will NEVER be satisfied! The woman is toxic.
Here's another one for ya, from the queen of mean. Apparently, after the Attorney General, DA, State Police and everyone else have told her over and over that no laws have been broken in town, she has now gone to the FBI, in an attempt to disparage the Town Supervisor and Receiver of taxes. This woman will stop at nothing when it comes to trying to ruin the lives of these good people. What a vindictive, spoiled, arrogant narcissistic, envious, pathetic little person she is. Oh yeah, ditto for Napolean Christo
ReplyDeleteAnon. 10:16AM I think you summed that up nicely!
ReplyDelete802am; special meetings are exactly that - special and because something needs to be addressed and potentially cannot wait for the regular Board meeting- such as this topic. The State Legislature has a very small window of opportunity to address this issue and the Town Board had a small amount of time to make the initial step in the process. There was/is nothing more than that.
ReplyDeleteI agree that questioning is your priviledge , but enough is enough already! The continual diatribe by Taylor and Cristo because they WANT everything that the Board does to appear to be improper and under-handed and sneeky! That fits the game plan designed by Cristo and Taylor and their merry band of followers.
They -( Cristo and Taylor) have done absolutely NOTHING positive or progressive for East Greenbush at all. They continually drag this town thru the mud and blame their mistakes on anyone and everyone else because they're both too ignorant and incompetent to accept the fact that NO ONE believes their continual line of B-S!
That - friends and neighbors is exactly what Ann Taylor and Mike Cristo are ALL about !
Also, why do we care what Little Poison Pen has to say--she lost!!! Don't give her the publicity!
ReplyDeleteWe need to focus on our candidates--not the one who is NOT running....who cares!!!
Sally
She went to the FBI about what? They have NO AUTHORITY to conduct anything. She only went there so she can blog about it and try to convince people that she is the " savior of the taxpayer" !
ReplyDeleteTaylor is a Pitiful excuse for a town resident / taxpayer.
All of East Greenbush should be made aware of her continual waste of energy and tax dollars defending her baseless accusations. She will never learn. When it all gets hot and heavy- just remember - TAYLOR and her ridiculous accusations started this entire mess. She deserves everything she gets over the next few months!
To : our two favorite friends;
ReplyDelete#1) being fired from 2 jobs - once for discrimination and again for covering up an embezzelment !?! dirty~dirty~dirty
#2) - lying onyour blog and in the TU - blogging under so many different names -( Kate, Elizabeth,etc...) dirty~dirty~dirty
#3) putting handlotion on yuor car and trying to blame the Dems !? dirty~dirty~dirty
#4) having your friends filling Town Hall positions after Cristo cleaned house in 2010 and then blaming the Dems for doing the same thing!?! dirty~dirty~dirty
#5) too much time at the Clarion off Everett Road - dirty~dirty~dirty
for Mike ; outright lies about the stipends and deficit dirty~dirty~dirty
- lying to the Board about your neighbors needing water so that your property value increased 4x in value !! dirty~dirty~dirty
-running to Troy under the cover of night to be sworn -in and thus leave EG high and dry !! dirty~dirty~dirty
-threatening our Town employees while you were out campaigning and then having your henchman-( Denfruscio) follow it up with more threats !?! dirty~dirty~dirty
- placing your friends and family in positions after you fired others , specifically without so much as a days warning !! downright dirty~dirty~dirty
-having one of your DPW friends keep a file on Partak behind his back - dirty~dirty~dirty
- telling/ordering people to call former commissioner of DPW cell phone and complain about whatever!? dirty~dirty~dirty
-auctioing off Town Vehicle with your business "partner" Denfruscio and then holding the check and not give the Town the $ - dirty~dirty~dirty
- wanted former DPW commissioner to give your friend the garbage contract - dirty~dirty~dirty
- sit at a Town Board meeting and label the Police Dept. incompetent and idiots and then qwhen you were confronted about it - YOU LIED ! Go Figure! dirty~dirty~dirty
Too much time spent at the Clarion - dirty~dirty~dirty!!
There's ALOT more too !
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ReplyDeleteI luv to hate Taylor , but her latest attack on the Board and Officer Miano is the lowest point in her pathetic excuse for a life .
ReplyDeleteYa know- we all keep it quiet about her being fired twice, and that one of those times was for apparently covering up an embezzlement. That's got to be part of the reason that she apparently knows so much about numbers - because she's used to manipulating them to her advantage ! A person with her past , both her public and private life are full of drama!! She obviously enjoys stirring the pot , so to all the candidates for 2011 - WATCH OUT ! Little miss poison pen is clearly looking for ammunition so she can spin it to her liking.
Your a real piece of smelly garbage Ann - any time your ready for more....let us know !! There's ALOT more , little miss #'s lady !
Just a lot of filth. I thought we were going to keep it clean.
ReplyDeleteOh, no, 12:30 AM, this time around, retain yourselves a reallll good attorney because, "fool me once, shame on you, fool be twice, shame on me!"
ReplyDeleteDear Shakespeare :
ReplyDeleteWhen you gonna stop being Momma's Boy and admit your part of ALL the problem issues you write about? huh?!? Your existence on the Town Board was to vote along with Danaher and Matters and APPROVE the budgets, which you did. You then attempt to say the stipends were/are illegal? If you were a Board member and voted "YES" on at least two if not three budgets, then arn't you culpable as well? Or are you just a hypocrit ? Inquiring minds want to know !!
It's been said numerous times here that you really have NOTHING...and it shows! Supposedly ANN went to the FBI !! For What?!? So she can blog about it and say that she did?!?! BIG DEAL?? Just like when Napoleon went to the State Police - they sent him packing as well !! Your morons - both of you ! Get a life - move to the Carolinas, move there together and leave your poor spouses some peace and quiet ! Ann - get a real job and a life ! Your past history of covering up improprieties in a banking institute speaks volumes of your character !
Timmy: these two are like the kids who constantly cry to the principal because they have no friends, so they make up stories and cry to the teacher and principal. They're both worthless individuals who have obviously no home life to speak of- or at the very least, a strained home life.
ReplyDeleteDems are almost assured of victory in November because of these two ! We should almost, kinda-sorta ....maybe like thank them because they get the dems more votes than they'll ever know !
The bottom line is christo and taylor should have never put this issue on there blog regarding Ed s retirement.If you read christos last comment regarding this he does not know alot about the issue but then makes a comment about it.Sounds like a person with no mind.A dummy at least.lol After writing this he will probally change what he said.That sounds about right.This town will not improve on the republician side only when they are gone and their inaccurate blog is gone
ReplyDeleteChristo is now infamous for mis-information and innaccurate quotes and stories !
ReplyDeleteHis legacy will most certaintly be something along the lines of ; " the little boy who cried wolf one too many times" !! For sure !
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ReplyDeleteTimmy reads just fine - bottom line: there's nothing ILLEGAL- it has been printed and written that the practice is not recommended and/or frowned upon only because it was not specifically brought forth in resolution , rather in a budget line. As far as all the references above - ENOUGH - the issue is what it is, they were given out as was the practice of the Town for many, many years prior to the current administration!! Get over yourself ! NO ONE cares about all your references and foolishness. the stipends were stopped in 2008. Find something new to write about Don !
ReplyDeleteBTW : I read quite well and have moved on past this - you keep dredging it up - for what?? Pay your damn legal fees that you owe the Town and stop your incessant whining !! No one cares what you write anymore- anonymously or not !
NOT WORRIED AT ALL- .
ReplyDeleteLets clear something up - ? - Board members mislead or board members that were incompetent and continue to deny accountability for their actions simply because its the vehicle they use to disparage the current administration?
You can throw around veiled threats all day long- bottom line Don - your washed up and no one gives a damn about what YOU think is important- including the FBI - Nice try but your all washed up and no one was smearing Matters - those are your words, just making it clear that pension padding is there over on your republican/reform side ! Pension padding goes both ways - get over yourself.
Factual material exists both ways mister- you'd be wise to heed your own advise....danaher,matter and cristo could easily be found culpable and complicent in this real easy......be careful
Board member misled by staff in response to a direct question which could not have been misinterpreted.
ReplyDelete1140-; {take note}
ReplyDeleteThe town is not goverend by the rants of a drunken fool nor the lies of narcisistic windbags ....
Matters is clearly pension padding - whether you agree or not,he's doing it.
ok - enough already
ReplyDeleteWell.....take down the libel.
ReplyDeleteok- I'll bite - what? I see statements , not libel and libel can only be attributed to a named individual....where is the name? I - ( we) see a statement of opinion, same as we apparently posted for you...a statement of opinion. So ...I guess the answer must be a clear difference of opinion
ReplyDeletethe U.S. Supreme Court has allowed that only factual misrepresentation is to be considered libel or slander, not expression of opinion.
ReplyDeleteRead more: http://www.answers.com/topic/slander-and-libel
Anyone heard whether or not Fiacco is running? I heard he's going to walk away from Defruscio and Cristo and whats left of the Republican party.
ReplyDeleteIf the man has any class at all, let alone brains, he will totally disassociate himself from those kooks. They all have venomous relationships with each other and are totally classless dispicable people. He has had to get a taste of just what they are all about by now. All you need is to spend five minutes with them and you know it's not a good thing.
ReplyDeleteEd Gilbery is being touted as the man who never misses a school board meeting.
ReplyDeleteHaving read many of his Times Union blog entries, quite frankly I find him boring and clearly against anything Democrat. Which instantly makes me very suspicious of his true intent for Town Board.
I will watch and read very closely to see if he aligns himself with the Cristo / Taylor camp. If he does - well then he deserves exactly what he gets in November.
On a lighter note: I hope all these candidates have some of their own money. The Repubilcan fundraiser was sparsely attended.
Fred and others" the candidates correct name is Ed Gilbert.
ReplyDeleteWhat is up with AT....dirty, dirty, dirty...is that really her new catchphrase??? Sorry, but the more she uses it it - the goofier she looks! Can you say..."Goofy, Goofy, Goofy"?
ReplyDeleteAT posted another one of her famous "anonymous threats" where she says she's going to release info. on the dems because she doesn't like that the Town is running smoothly and when she started slinging mud like the dirt box champ she is, supporters of the Dems slammed her. Poor little Annie.
ReplyDeleteAnn is clearly the TEMPER everyone says she is. Thanx for the votes Ann....your truly one of McCabes best supporters !
Terminated from two banking jobs!> tsk~tsk~tsk
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ReplyDeleteI have tried to not read anything written by the losing team. I read above where Taylor and Cristo are taking anyone to task for disagreeing with their new slander campaign. I find it laughable that they both adamently say and repeat several times that they are not running for any town office, yet they are throwing insults and challenges like they're competing on "Who wants to be a Millionaire" !
ReplyDeleteIf Mike Cristo's ego were any bigger - I believe his head would explode! Wow! Thank God the people of East Greenbush saw thru his series of cheesy garbage issues.
Mr. McCabe: I would seek a good lawyer and consider slander and libel charges against both Taylor and Cristo. They may not have authored the nasty entries on their blog, but they make no bones about the fact they tehy and only they, approve comments. I believe a good lawyer could address that quite competently and effectively.
For all the reasons that cristo was thrown off the Times Union blog, I believe that all that could be used against him again.
I'm told Don Johnson is the person who keeps inciting arguments on this blog , and then threatens libel and slander charges- I believe a good dose of their own medicine would suit that side quite well !
Dear 1:58 PM:
ReplyDeleteRick McCabe is too smart for your suggestion and you very clearly know next to nothing about libel and slander.
And you are no better than those you criticize in attributing things to Don Johnson that you have no first hand knowledge of and are "told" by someone else.
Too much of what is wrong with this town is, in my opinion, directly linked to the blogs - all the blogs - this one included.
This blog justifies its evilness by claiming "they" (meaning C-T) did it first. That argument sounds like what is heard on a grammer school playground.
Reasonable people can disagree on both the cause of the problem and the solution to the problem. Let's allow each other that space and try, I mean really try, to leave the trash talk out between now and at least the November election.
I predict zero success - on all sides - for this suggestion. But if EG Talks does it first and the same logic you use to justify your trash talk filters over the the C-T blog maybe we, as a town, can show some progress.
2:11 - GREAT SUGGESTION! LETS SEE IF THEY CAN PLAY BY THE SAME RULES !
ReplyDeleteALLOW ME TO REMIND YOU THAT THE DEMS IN THIS TOWN TOOK TWO YEARS OF SLANDER AND SMACK TALK FOM THE BOY CRISTO ON THE TIMES UNION BLOG AND THEN ON HIS OWN BLOG AFTER THE TIMES UNION THREW HIM OFF.
PEOPLE CAN BLAME EGTALKS FOR WHATEVER THEY WANT. I AM ONE PERSON WHO WAS GLAD THAT THERE WAS SOME PLACE TO ANSWER ALL THE BOLD CLAIMS AND GARBAGE BEING AUTHORED BY THEM OVER THERE.
YOUR IDEA IS JUST THAT - AN IDEA.
TAYLOR WILL ALLOW ANYTHING TO PRINT ON HER BLOG - ESPECIALLY SOMETHING THAT EITHER MAKES FUN OF MCCABE AND OBRIEN, OR THAT MAKES HER LOOK LIKE THE CHAMPION OF LOST CAUSES!
AND - YOU GIVE WAY TOO MUCH CREDIT TO THE BLOGS. NOT THAT MANY PEOPLE READ THESE BLOGS.
YOU THINK THAT WHAT WAS WRITTEN ON THAT EGPRAYS DIDN'T INCITE ANGER AND HATRED? THAT GUY TALKED OPENLY ABOUT DOING PHYSICAL HARM TO SITTING POLITICIANS. HIS REFERENCES TO HUMAN BODY PARTS IN THE SAME LINE OF TALKING ABOUT MCCABE AND OBRIEN DIDN'T GO UN NOTICED EITHER.
EVILNESS IS CLEARLY IN THE EYE OF THE READER!
GO OVER THERE AND TRY TO GET THEM TO PLAY BY YOUR RULES - GOOD LUCK !
2:11 - as I read over your post several times, something struck me about the people who support C&T. Up until EGTALKS was started, there was no way for people to question or voice disagreement with whatever propaganda was being put out by C&T and their group of supporters.
ReplyDeleteOnce it was learned that there was a venue for taxpayers to vent their displeasure with the platform being put out by the reform party - ALL the issues started. Cristo can't handle anyone who disagree's with him, and although its really become a punch line for jokes, the "Taylor-temper" is infamous.
Cristo was thrown off the Times Union Blog , the dark egprays was formed and then finally the unites was opened. And still after all that, supporters of C&T still come here to start an argument and when one is given, they claim libel and slander.
Have you read the latest crap and garbage written over there? Talk about evilness and vile threats and slander!
Please tell me that you wrote the very same letter to them over there and they just have failed to publish it! Otherwise , you all get exactly what you dish out and write. The battle cry for keeping it civil goes BOTH WAYS .
Jeff and others- the most glaring issue both blogs must deal with somehow is that the supporters of each blog view the other side as barbarians and heathens, uneducated and ignorant. Until credit is given and the arguing stops, the 2:11 suggestions will never see the light of day.
ReplyDeleteI think it's time everyone stops picking on poor Ann Taylor. How would you like to be an egotistical maniac who is unable to hold a job, unable to get elected and has a fear of the police?? You too would want to blame someone else for all of your shortcomings - so Ann blames the Democrats. Really, who could blame her for being jealous? They have power, they can get elected and accomplish things that Ann can only dream about.
ReplyDeleteOh, and while we're at it, let's leave poor Mike Cristo alone. Here's a guywho has lost a number of friends and respect in the community, not to mention his loss of hair. He has gained something..but not to worry Mike, that can be taken care of by going to the gym or running with Ann.
Thanks for considering giving Mike and Ann a break.
Ann Taylor doesn't care about how she is talked about, just as long as her name stays out there. Stipends....really, again? It is more than obvious that she doesn't care what people think or say about her just as long as it keeps going.
ReplyDeleteMy perception of her is...she has failure in her personal life, her professional life, and in her political life. She just refuses to take the blame for any of it. Not saying it's true...just how me (and a lot of other people) see her. Let's face it...she will be talked about (not necessarily nicely) for as long as she can keep her name out there.
I do have to give Cristo credit...he always comes to her defense...as he should. He helped to get her to where she is today. The two of them just could not be honest, decent people. Mike has refused to take blame for anything that happened in this town while he was on the Board. If he really didn't know....his answer for every question asked in relation to that time...then he wasn't doing his job and shouldn't hold any Town position.
I know I would still like to see his list of accomplishments as a member of the Town Board. I know others would like to see this list also.
MIKE CRISTO ACCOMPLISHED ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WHILE HE WAS A SITTING TOWN BOARD MEMBER.
ReplyDeleteI MAKE A DIRECT CHALLENGE TO ANY REFORM PARTY FAITHFUL TO GIVE SPECIFIC EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY IF YOU CAN. HE VOTED ALONG PARTY LINES AND NOW BECAUSE IT APPARENTLY DOEN'T AGREE WITH HIS HATRED FOR THE DEMS, HE DENIES KNOWLEDGE AND INVOLVMENT! HOW CONVEINENT! PISS POOR EXCUSE FOR A POLITICIAN IS EXACTLY WHAT MIKE CRISTO IS !
George, I'll do that for Mike Cristo if you will do the same thing for Phil Malone. Phil Malone has done NOTHING. He, too, has voted along party lines, with the sole exception of his unexplained "No" vote on adding a staff member to our DPW crew. So, respond with your list of what Malone has done besides getting his mother appointed to a position in town hall.
ReplyDeleteCRISTO HAD THREE YEARS TO ACCOMPLISH NOTHING. MALONE HASN'T BEEN THERE A YEAR - AND IN CASE YOU DIDN'T REALIZE - THAT ROSE CRISTO WORKED IN TOWN HALL WHILE HER SONNY BOY WAS A TOWN BOARD MEMBER !!
ReplyDeleteGeorge: Here's my take...
ReplyDeleteMike Cristo brought out into the open the stipend issue. And in doing so he helped save the taxpayers around $150,000 - maybe a bit more.
And before you push back...
If the stipends were the right thing to do and if they were done legally why did the Board end them? Why didn't the Board continue to do them and justify the spending to the voters? We all know the answers don't we? In the daylight of public scrutiny the stipends stink like week old fish.
Malone is a zero. He has done nothing. Nothing. Sue Mangold stepped up to the CFAC and, in my opinion, has done a pretty solid job.
We'll call the Rose Cristo, Joan Malone "Mommy" jobs a tie and call Malone's brother on the DPW the tie breaker.
I return to challenging you to identify what Phil Malone has done. Based on your response I am guessing you already know that the answer is that he has done not a thing. He did embarass himself at the opening of the CFAC meetings. He had to retract his comments and explain that, in light of the town's fiscal crisis, he was joking when he told the CFAC members that their role was to help him get re-elected. Immature? Probably.
By the way I do not think Mike Cristo is the greatest politician in history. But I also think Phil Malone is worse in terms of contributions to our town.
I hope the blog administrators will post this. I think this exchange is useful for voters and I very much look forward to your response.
Does anyone else realize MC hates Mcabe cause he thinks he is the one responsible for having him ousted, hates Toni cause Mommy had to quit because of a political conflict? AT just goes along with him.
ReplyDeleteDid everyone notice the knee jerk delivery of the cristo doctrine in the response at 8:01? With three years of Town Board Service to pick from, along with current service in the Legislature nothing could be found, or came to mind? No reflex reaction like I back this guy because he has proven himself with ????, or because he can always be counted on to step up and ?????.
ReplyDeleteNo. An immediate fire back of misdirection, from the playground selection of Oh Yeah, who sez; you first; you're worse; did not-did too.
I wonder if that writer ever even considered trying to think of some accomplishment by boy crisco that could be cited?
Malones brother was hired in 1994. You really want to go down this road? What about Mikes best friend Stacy Crain being hired for the water department? What about mikes neighbor, Tina Jones being hired as the secretary for the Supe/Town Attorney? HUH? Do you really want to keep going, OK - what about mikes best friend and shares a driveway with Joe Kelly who Cristo appointed to the planning board.
ReplyDeleteUseful exchange - maybe. Malone has been in office 6 months - SIX MONTHS! Give the man a chance - Cristo had three years to do absolutely nothing. Lets level the playground area huh?!?!
I have lived in East Greenbush for many years. I've never seen the likes of someone so hell-bent on full destruction of established and functional departments and workers as Mike cristo.
He has openly admitted to being a Union Buster and it clearly shows with his hatred for ALL town workers - regardless of what he says. He may have one or maybe two people who will speak with him but even that's a stretch!
I have a few Cristo accomplishments :
ReplyDelete#1)- the scrap debacle, he was the Town Board liason to the DPW and Transfer Station at the time that there was no apparent $ being turned in.
#2 ) the sale of a Town Vehicle and failure to give the money back to the Town - but instead make it an election issue and blame everyone who had no access to the money instead.
#3) digging up a Town Water line without the required permits and then blame that on a former friend who would have absolutely NO IDEA about any of that, yet the self 0-described "contractor" failed to do even the basics and when he dug up the town water line and our DPW had to come out on OVERTIME to ifx his mess, he tried to turn the entire debacle around and blame people who were not eben there!
#4) unauthorized use of a Town vehicle to leave the area to go to used car auctions. But..all in all, it was Defruscio- Cristo's best friend and business partner in the sale of the Town truck!
#5) the absolute decline of the youth summer program due to hiring a completely incompetent employee to run the youth program into the ground!
#6) having the Town DPW install a water line so the value of your home and adjoining property would increase! WOW!!
Should I keep going ?
I do believe that Mike Cristo's was the deciding vote that kept the Town from buying Bove's golf course for $1.7 million before the fact of the $2.5 million debt came to light. Would have been a gigantic boondoggle, but a place for McCabe to retire to and manage.
ReplyDeleteFriends and neighbors:
ReplyDeleteMike Cristo and Ann Taylor are not running for office.
Phil Malone and Sue Mangold are.
So far Phil Malone's lack of contributions to our town is being excused by his length of time in office. His gaffe at the opening of the CFAC is being ignored by his supporters. As is his insults to taxpayers. Remember the gadfly stuff the Democratic Party had to pull from their web site last year?
Sue Mangold has been in office the exact same amount of time as Phil Malone. So I trust Phil's supporters will accept that comparing him to Sue is a valid comparison.
I continue to insist that Phil Malone has done NOTHING. I wish he had explained his interesting vote against adding a person to the DPW staff.
Sue Mangold has been an active and contributing member of the CFAC. I am pretty certain she attended almost every meeting and gave freely of her time and energy for the good of our town.
So, let's compare Phil and Sue. Same length of time in office, same political party, same opportunities to show their skills and abilities and interests and commitments.
And how does Phil compare to Sue? I insist to you, his avid supporters, that Phil Malone has done nothing. Nothing at all.
Now I am betting the blog administraotrs will not post this because it exposes Phil Malone for what he pretty much is - a guy who has done nothing. But we'll see. And if it does get posted please respond with your comparisons of Sue and Phil. That will be eye opening for voters and, who knows, maybe it will motivate Phil to raising his game. Thank you.
Who's to say the golf course would have been a bad thing? That place is a cash cow, always busy, plus the town would have had the pool that everyone has been looking for. Alot of revenue would have come from that place, so in my view, Cristo cost the town plenty, just because he doesn't play golf. It's to be expected though, from an unathletic sociopath who has no friends and can't function in a world outside of knocking down a building. Did you really need all that college, Mike? Your dad would have given you that business without the degree. Underachiever if you ask me.
ReplyDeleteI was talking to someone this weekend that knows Ann Taylor, and has for some time, and was totally surprised when she said that Ann used to be a lovely person...huh....apparently BC (before Cristo). I guess being Mike's "mini me" (in thought, word and deed) has changed her. I have never heard the word "lovely" to describe her. I don't know her so I only know what she professes on the blogs...and that doesn't come across as lovely.
ReplyDeleteI was just wondering about something..I try to do all of the shopping that I possibly can locally...and I have never even once seen Ann at any of the stores here. I know what she looks like from her pictures in the Advertiser and political advertising. One would think I would see her at least once..I've lived here for 20 years.
3:37, you are dead wrong. McCabe is a pretty good golfer...no way would he play on that piece of crap course.
ReplyDeleteIt never came to a vote before the Board, and....it was never about the golf course in the first place. It was mostly about the adjoining 350+ acres of land that canme with the deal . The golf course was actually viewed as the "red-haired step child" that was forced as part of the deal. Cristo and his few friends like to tell people that it was McCabe and the golf course, but the reality was that it was more about the vacant parcel of adjoining land .
ReplyDeleteThe missed opportunity to purchase over 300 acres of underdeveloped land for 1.2 million dollars is one of the most short sighted mistakes of our former board member.
ReplyDeletePhil Danaher understood the value of the property and the potential for recreational development. The golf course may have been converted to something more accessible to the residents.
The topic discussed at great lengths but the thought was it may be too expensive at this time. Mike Cristo had no deciding vote.
The towns of East Greenbush and Schodack are now at the mercy of Joe Bove who is in the process of selling the entire acreage to developers, who want to come in with apartments.
Please don't tell me again what a mistake it would have been - the mistake was not in doing it!
7:51am - I have no problem posting your opinion. Your entitled to your view point and you kept it clean. The simple fact that many of us disagree with you is probably a moot point in your view. Keep it clean - I highly encourage a good , solid debate.
ReplyDeleteIt's almost refreshing for a change !
I am going to attempt to close the golf course debate with some factual pieces of information. I will provide the web sites so those still interested can research the issue for themselves.
ReplyDeleteCheck out golfmak.com Here's a quote: "It's 2011 and we are seeing many devastating golf course crashes. Banks are inundated with golf courses. Many appraise below the mortgage balance." There's more read for yourself but the point is that golf courses are notoriously bad investments.
Then there is this from golfmagazine.com:
Golf participation in the US fell 10.2 in 2008 to about the same level of participation as in 1995. Golf participation peaked in the US between 2000 and 2005. Since then it has gone down steadily.
These are basic facts - not some politcal spin. It is pretty clear that the decision to not invest taxpayer money in a golf course was prudent.
I would like to respectfully suggest that some of us may be blinded by our hatred of Mike Cristo. But I think a factual analysis shows he was being prudent - at least on the golf course issue. Thank you.
On the golf course issue.....It was Pheasant Hollow, which is a piece of junk. AND the Town couldn't afford it. If management had been half-way professional and business-like, the Town would not be spending money like a drunken sailor, would not have had the debt, and may have been able to make a case in a rational plan. But there is NO such professional and business-like open approach to development like that. It's all crony-driven.
ReplyDeleteGuilderland-owned Western Tpke and Colonie's courses are doing well. Bethlehem just lost it's bid to buy Normanside. Also I think negotiations were under way for both Evergreen and Pheasant Hollow. Either course would need a ton of money beyond the purchase price to make them playable, but it still could have worked had it gone through.
ReplyDeleteI read it as the construction phase - not the running of the finished product , and if memory serves me, the jobs promised were to be in production and operations, not the construction. Bob Pasinella, quoted below, also still believes it will be local , independent contractors - "siggnificant for the area" ! How can that statement possibly be mis-interpreted? Below is the exact print of the T-U section you apparently are referring too:
ReplyDeleteRobert Pasinella, the IDA's executive director, said Tuesday that his organization had to report the numbers that way because FedEx Ground relies mostly on independent contractors for its delivery drivers -- and that will be most of the type of people employed by the distribution center.
He said that in the first year, there are expected to be roughly 133 independent contractors and four full-time FedEx managers. But those numbers should increase to 300 within three years.
"It's significant for the area," Pasinella said.
The FED-EX issue will never die so long as Ann Taylor or Mike Cristo breathe air. They were against it and therefore they will never let it rest. They wait until someone, somewhere will say something that they can spin and exploit.
ReplyDeleteAnn will then immediately blog something along the lines of : " I told you so" ! or something else derogatory and defaming to McCabe and the Board. How dare they approve something that she and Cristo disagreed with!!
Jeff-677 read the article correctly. Unions protesting the construction phase. Did we all forget about the annual payments and mitigation fees that FedEx is coughing up?
ReplyDeleteFedEx was up front about both the transfer of current employees to EG and the use of contract delivery people.
No "gotcha" moment here, folks.
Why do we obsess over Cristo, Taylor and their followers? They are nothing but a distraction. They bait us and some take it hook, line and sinker!
ReplyDeleteThey aren't the candidates. They aren't the deal makers. Let their followers rANNt. Let them have their fun at others' expense and not ours.
I would have no issue if I read something wrong.
ReplyDeleteFED-EX has yet to occupy the grounds. When they do , and if they fail on their promises, well then I suppose we'd all have something to make a stink about.
Jeff-677 I'm agreeing with you ... saying that you did read the article correctly. 2:47pm
ReplyDelete9:02- gotcha! Thanks !
ReplyDeleteIsn't Fed Ex revitalizing a large tract of commercial property that sat dormant for quite a long time, in an economic downturn?
ReplyDeleteDon't most of thes criticism amount to another round of what you did isn't good enough, with no superior proposals offered of accomplished?
Hasn't boy cristo, who proclaims himself to be a self made man in his father's business,
had several years of public service, and a record of that sort of finger pointing, but no production?
Did anyone read the other article on the front of the Business Section in the same TU, sourced to the same Union Official protesting in EG, that touts the further Chip Fab development in Malta with a positive spin on the same tax incentives?
Isn't EG having a lot of discussion and inquiry right now to set plans for using the serious funding that is coming in from the Fed Ex project?
Just Asking
ReplyDeleteThe answers are YES, YES, YES, YES AND YES.
The "golf course issue" is again being twisted. It was NEVER about the "golf course" and revenue either being generated or lost. It was about the additional land that accompanied the golf course, and Joe Bove would not separate or split the parcel.
ReplyDeleteThe ELKS club tried to purchase the golf course years earlier and the terms and conditions changed almost daily back then. Joe Bove is NO business man, and Schodact and East Greenbush Officials knew that going in , but the negotiations were necessary to prevent greedy developers from erecting worthless, cheap , apartment buildings. That friends and non-friends , was exactly what the "golf course" issue was all about.
But 10:22.....Isn't that why municipalities have long range land use plans for?? (To be over-ridden as necessary, depending on the development and interested parties??)
ReplyDeleteHere's more from the "Queen of Mean" ;
ReplyDelete"Why would you want to talk about anything else until after the stipend issue is resolved and the offenders brought to justice?? Don't you care that YOUR tax dollars went into their bank accounts improperly, if not illegally, to boost up their annual salaries and pad their pensions FOR LIFE?? Did you get a $5,000 bump up in your salary last year?? I know I didn't. Why should they?? They stole that money and hoped they'd never get caught. Well, they were caught thanks to the FOIL law and it can't be ignored. It WON'T be ignored no matter how many times you say "Let's come up with something new, shall we?" How foolish! "
That - ladies and Gentlemen is the absolute Queen of Mean - non other than ANN TAYLOR - the lady who simply doesn't get it. Between her and Don Johnson, the reform party is clearly headed to the bottom of the pond ! We can only hope that Fiacco see's the light at the end of the tunnel and walks away from these two and whatever it is they stand for or against. They have nothing and nobody is listening.
It isn't so much that it's being ignored- it's that it was put to bed months ago, ANN and DOn brought it back up again, so that Ann could blog about it and Don could write to the Advertiser about it. !
Those two make a great pair- huh !?!
I tend to think of the Reform Party and their dozen or so followers in our area as the "Twit Patrol". Fits perfectly!
ReplyDeleteTis true...Ann is, without a doubt, the Queen of Mean. Also, Mike is the King of Creeps....
ReplyDeleteI would like to take this opportunity to thank them for being the pitiful creatures that they are. I have had dozens of people tell me they would not vote for anyone running within the Repubican party. Ann, Mike and his good buddy Chris DeFruscio have one thing in common..people just don't like them. Whoever put DeFruscio in the position....let me thank you too.
When push comes to shove...the Democrats stick together...and with these clown pushing..let's go Democrats!
First of all Ann, you need to WORK to earn a pension, stipend, bonuses, benefits, etc. Something you know nothing about. Yes, work, the operative word here. How about some credible work history for you already. Justice?? How about you start paying your fair share of taxes to the town you live in instead of Taking advantage of your fathers VA credit?? Kinda like stipends, eh, Ann??? Not illegal, just maybe not ethical. Shut up already. A bigger phony doesnt exist in this town than you, seriously.
ReplyDeleteB abe I n T otal C ontrol of H erself - just about says it all !
ReplyDeleteAnn Taylor : blah~blah~blah!!! Oh wait- there's more - blah~blah~blah!!! and.......even more - blah~blah~blah !!
ReplyDeleteThat , ladies and gentlemen is the total substance of her IQ and commonsense and political savvy !
Blah~blah~blah...wait...Don Johnson wrote something profound ~ blah....blah....blah !! Oh stop! Ray Mooney is back on his soapbox again....blah-blah-blah ! Cristo is now the expert and resident know-it-all on everything FED-EX ....blah!blah!blah! ( Mike needs to feel important - hence the ! after his blahs )
ReplyDeleteThen there's the queen - little miss giggle~giggle~boom-boom! Living large- not paying her fair share of town taxes , no meaningful employment history - slinging mud like the champ she is.....blah~blah~blah!!
That once again ladies and gentlemen - is a complete wrap up of the four remaining members of camp christo , drunk on their kool-aide and looking for a whooper of a hangover come November ! Can't wait for November !